Is Islam the most JQ-aware religion?

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[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

Islam has only been as hostile as it is to Jews today because of the creation of Israel and the ensuing wars in the region. In fairly recent history Muslim and Jews have collaborated, the Umayyad invasion of Spain a good example.

Older forms of both Paganism and Christianity were far more hostile to the Jews but in practice today they're accepting. And even with the Muslims only Palestine and Iran are really resisting Jewry as opposed to the Gulf countries.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Nazism was Pagan.

[–]8thmonitor[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Why do you say National Socialism was Pagan? Over 90% of NatSoc Germany believed in Protestantism and Catholicism.

I read the majority of NatSoc Germany followed some modified version of Christianity and minority followed Paganism.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

The people at the top were Pagan. That's pretty well understood.

[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Only really Himmler, those under him, and a couple others. But had they won the war it would've revived and probably superseded Christianity by now. Same thing is happening today but slower. Most people believe in astrology, a lot more people than in the past believe in other relatively pagan elements.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Hitler and Rosenberg were Pagan as well. Rosenberg was probably the most fanatical. He literally wanted to flatten all churches in Germany. Hitler was far more pragmatic though. At the end of the day almost all of the top dogs in the Nazi hierarchy were Nietzscheans.

[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I thought Hitler was either atheist or somewhat vaguely spiritual honestly. though i suppose the latter is pagan revivalism in some form

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

They were trying to phase out Christianity. They planned to eventually send Christians away too, but they couldn't do that when they made up 90% of the country.

[–]8thmonitor[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I always wondered how that would even work. How is it even possible to get 90% of a population to change their religion?

[–]8thmonitor[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yeah. I was also thinking about Martin Luther's views on JQ. Christianity is complete opposite now.

Don't Gulf countries only support Israel because they hate Iranian Shias even more? I don't know much about Shia vs. Sunni.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It's ironic that Martin Luther thought that, when almost the whole Bible was written by Jews.

[–]8thmonitor[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh yeah lol.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Christianity is literally a branch of Judaism. It was only hostile to Judaism in the past for the same reason Islam is now.

[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Christianity castigated those Jews who denied Christ as the Messiah and as God from the start before the Bible was written. There's a lot of negatives with Christianity but different circumstances