r/wayofthebern might migrate their users to Saidit

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[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

it's too bad most of DaR didn't follow us to Saidit when we were banned,

Agreed. It's a shame.

I have already gotten some weird passive-aggressive pseudo-ban from their subsaidit that seems to have been copy/pasted from their reddit moderation policy.

Which is funny because they are literally migrating away from reddit because they don't like the corporate control and elimination of third party apps. It's funny that they would show up here and continue to be smug about their moderation.

Does anybody with tech experience know if reddit making it's API private will effect saidit?

Another helpful site for people following all this drama: https://save3rdpartyapps.com/index.html

paging /u/jasoncarswell

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

(Good thing I stumbled on this. I haven't been checking my messages for a few weeks. Thanks for the ping.)

IMO most folks talking about their sub communities are overlooking the fact that folks don't all belong to a single sub, though they want it all in one place as they are lazy.

It seems to me that rather than a single-point-of-failure site like SaidIt, or decentralization model like Lemmy (problematic Woke vs Deplorables cleavage), a bottom-up fork from Lemmy would make more sense to me where the USER MAY DECIDE which community/topical instances to participate in (or not), rather than the default arbitrary decisions of decentralizing admins.

Further, for the zillionth time, we need bottom-up self-regulating communities. I only touched on the idea again moments ago, but can get further in detail about how it could actually work. Here's more: /s/SaidItCommunity/comments/au2g/how_would_you_reorganize_our_saidit_community/

[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

I think on Lemmy you could just host it on your own server and do whatever you want, all the others can do is ban you from their servers. Basically what Gab did on the backend with the same Fediverse code to ensure they'd never go down.

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

Yes. However, what I'm saying is that "all the other[ admin]s" should not ban you from their servers, rather, the individual users should decide who they want to block or not.

[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Keep in mind the admin pays money out of pocket for maintaining these servers, so I think blocking servers against your ethos, or otherwise damaging your vision is perfectly fine. If it was totally peer to peer rather than federated then what you're saying would make more sense.

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Freedom is not necessarily tied to finances. Many admins get support from communities. Many don't do it for the money. The finances point is moot.

If more platforms were peer to peer apps using different protocols there'd be no need for servers and that distribution would be ideal - in an ideal world where everyone had good tech. The reality is different - yet the goal remains to do better. Something in between could be developed. I suspect the powers that should not be are maintaining this divided paradigm.

It's not about what I personally would block. It's about what the individuals want to individually see - NOT the admins, moderators, nor any kind of "authorities".

[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

I suspect the powers that should not be are maintaining this divided paradigm.

no, it's just difficult for these things to reach mass adoption. there was a p2p reddit clone 6 years ago that died out.

It's about what the individuals want to individually see

this is how tiktok/reels works and it's pretty effective at piping me racist content even on my personal accounts. zucc knows me...

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

there was a p2p reddit clone 6 years ago that died out.

Time to resurrect it. Call it Zombit.

[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Would be pleased to see such a thing revived, hope you manage it

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Maybe LemmyBB too.