What are your thoughts/ counter arguments on this post perpetuating the standard "White's do not exist as a race/ Whiteness was made up in the US" leftist narrative?

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[–]Nombre27 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

If Whites don't exist, then how can White privilege and White fragility exist? Schrodinger's White person amirite? (reddit moment)

Being White exists when it's a target they mean to destroy ("anything White is evil") and being White doesn't exist when they mean to dispossess ("that's not yours, give it to the minorities").

I wouldn't pay much attention to these lowlifes. They use whatever weapons are available to attack us.

https://archive.is/hifD1

Critical Theory and Political Correctness

The sword is called critical theory. The theory of critical theory is simply to criticize. It sounds ridiculous when you put it so simply, but that's really all there is to it. While the Frankfurt School was in America, they found their new vanguard for the communist revolution: the dispossessed. The subversive nature of critical theory was twofold. First, each area of critical theory could appear to be unique and self-contained. For example, feminism could attack western culture from the perspective of its oppression against women, and that oppression must be unique to western culture. They make no mention of how cultures in Africa, the Middle East or Asia treat women, they only focus on the oppression of women in the west.

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I mentioned that the subversive nature of critical theory was twofold. What makes critical theory truly destructive is that they never provide an alternative. They never tell you what might have been better, what might have worked in its place, or what alternatives have been tried successfully in the past. They just attack and attack and attack.

The Frankfurt School knew that western culture would eventually fight back against these attacks, so they created a shield. The shield is called political correctness. Political correctness says that certain groups are protected groups, therefore you're not allowed to talk about them unless you're one of them. They'll go even further by saying that they don't have to listen to your argument because you're a straight white male. Or they'll just say that they won't even let you talk because you're a racist homophobic misogynist. For example, if I were to call the president a tyrant, cultural marxists will say that the only reason I'm calling him a tyrant is because I hate black people. That's what political correctness is. It's a way for cultural marxists to get their opponents to shut up.

[–]Nasser[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The counter argument they would use for that is that people "considered" White benefit from the "social construct".

[–]Nombre27 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's exactly my point though, they just use it as a weapon, i.e. subjectively and when convenient for their desired end.

Furthermore, a nation is like a house, the members of that house should benefit and have privileges of membership, while outsiders are not entitled to those things.

The problems with our former nations is that they moved away from that natural concept and now it's a fight over resources and the public treasury.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

If Whites don't exist, then how can White privilege and White fragility exist?

If Whites don't exist, then white privilege can still be a thing. Let's say race didn't exist as a biological reality, but people THINK race does exist, so they treat people differently based on skin color. This is what they mean when they say it.

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

people THINK race does exist, so they treat people differently

If race is a only a social construct, and people think white people are treated differently, i.e. "white privilege", then they are admitting white people are a racial category, based on their own definition of race as a social construct.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

then they are admitting white people are a racial category

Yes but not a biological category. They do believe that whites as a social race is real.

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They do believe that whites as a social race is real

Sort of. White racial identity is argued to be irrelevant, illegitimate, nonsense, whereas black racial identity is "black sunshine".