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[–]shilldetector 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You just say these things because they make you feel good like somehow we have the truth on our side so then liberal capitalism will collapse magically and we will be in power magically or something.

It's not magic that will make it collapse, it's reality, it's math. The US is nearly 30 trillion dollars in debt and counting, that's an unprecedented hole for zog to climb out of. We are seeing record inflation, the stage is set for an eventual collapse of the dollar at a time the neocons are using the US to wage wars(unsuccessfully) with everybody. The US is highly divided, and a silent majority of whites are sick to death of this racial grievance bullshit and endless anti white incitement and even open discrimination.

It's nonsense, our society is in total disarray but the institutions themselves look even more powerful than any that have ever existed throughout history.

You honestly think that can be sustained with all the above mentioned problems? I would be pretty amazed.

There's a danger of obsessing over history and always using past examples as a guide for how to proceed in the present and future.

Another empty rhetorical statement. 3 sentences in a row that actually said nothing that was practical, just throwing out platitudes about how you're right just because you say you are when in reality these tidbits are neither true nor valuable for understanding anything.

It's not an empty rhetorical statement. There are countless examples of this right up to the present day. WW2 is a great one. The French prepared for a coming war with Germany using WW1 as a guide. How did that work out for them? The Germans by contrast completely scrapped previous doctrine and came up with something new and unexpected. This has happened continually throughout history. So if you want to use history as a guide, there's a pretty consistent takeaway.

Times and events can, and more often than not are, unprecedented

Yes and revolutionaries capitalise on events by being organised and prepared. Bolshevik revolution, and the death of von Hindenburg are fine examples.

So you agreed with my statement, then used historical examples of how to proceed.

If revolution is what it takes to defend myself and my people than so be it."

Great, so then start studying fascists. I recommend 'The Civic Foundations of Fascism' and 'Bowling for Hitler/Fascism' as a starting point.

Why would I use two failed movements as a starting point? Also, the Bolsheviks were funded by Jewish wealth, not exactly something you can rely on. Also, the key word I used was IF. I don't believe a "revolution" is what it takes and in fact believe that attempting such a thing would likely backfire in the near term. They're fucking everything up left and right, so why would I intervene if it was just as likely to help them, as Charlottesville did? Timing is everything. Again since you are into historical examples from the Nazi era, imagine if the opposition to the Nazis attempted to publicly organize in 1936, how do you think that would have worked out for them? They would have been completely crushed. It would have been doing the Nazis a favor. A better tactic right now would be along the lines of the French yellow jackets or even something akin to the civil rights movement, except for whites and in clear opposition to Jewish power and authoritarianism, hence why I support the "it's ok to be white" messaging and think its extremely effective. Also, during the civil rights "struggle", blacks always had the option of simply returning to their home continent and peoples, European peoples don't have that option. These are the societies we built, and in the case of Europe lived in for tens of thousands of years, so there is nowhere to return to, so our moral and practical argument is far greater than blacks had back then.

There's not much that can actually be applied from any of them, except the fascist way of organising which can be applied to us 1:1.

Again, this is where I disagree, I dont think it can be applied to us 1:1, certainly not in America, I dont know as much about Europe. Times and are completely different, the people you are trying to persuade are completely different, the technology the state can bring against you to monitor and supress organizing is completely different, as well as their ability to propagandize and spin events to the masses, as these patriot front dudes just found out. Not to mention their ability to use social media as a weapon against you, to astroturf riots and organized violence on a whim, as 2020 showed.

You can accuse me of speaking in platitudes or generalizations, but I can specifically lay out all the differences between 1920's Germans and 2022 Americans and the situation both find themselves in, and these differences are profound. What worked in one situation with one group of people will not necessarily work with the other and could have the opposite effect. I can specifically list these differences if you dont believe they exist or matter.

I'm not saying all this to blackpill people. In fact as I have pointed out I think it's almost a done deal that the system will collapse and the Jewish elite have already massively overplayed their hand as it always does. One major difference between now and these past revolutions you bring up is in the past the differences were mainly ideological. Today it goes way beyond that. A powerful group of Jews appear to be actively attempting to ethnically cleanse planet earth of European peoples, so this isnt just some stupid my ideology is better than your ideology bullshit, it is a situation of either allowing another group to destroy you, or preventing that. Every white person on earth will be effected by this and has motivation to oppose it, along with any non whites that aren't genocidal sociopaths, so I'm tired of the alt right always picking fights with other whites. Every white person should be our ally, or at least be given that option. So why make them your enemy and back them up against a wall and antagonize them into opposing you?