Gazprom Halts Gas Shipments To Europe Via Critical Pipeline

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[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

So what's going to be your reaction when Russia is forced out of Eastern Ukraine? Are you going to have a schizo meltdown and claim it's all fake?

The fact that Russia still doesn't have total air superiority over Ukraine is a testament they suck.

when NATO made it clear a direct intervention was off the table.

NATO is a defensive alliance and Ukraine was never a member state. However, several allied countries have given them weapons which is good enough.

[–]Rakean93Identitarian socialist 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

If Russian will end up the war without the donbass they will surely have lost. I don't see this happening.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

And you don't think Russia has never lost wars before? 1980s Afghan invasion rings a bell. Or even Finland 1939?

But instead of fighting goat herders, he's fighting another White nation. His optics is either incompetence or arrogance.

[–]Rakean93Identitarian socialist 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

I'm just glad I'm European right now

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Ukrainians aren't European? Lol, where do you think this war is even taking place?

[–]Rakean93Identitarian socialist 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

I'm glad I'm European because we are not fed with such blatant lies (we are fed with smaller lies). Every mainstream talk show in my country speaks about the needing for zelensky to surrender in order to save at least a part of ucraine. Last week, at the very prominent and left wing show cartaBianca there was an ucranian girl that was claiming that ucraine can win the war. All the guests basically stopped talking, watched their feet for a few seconds and said "yeah, zelensky should really surrender until he can save something".

And now here we are, with an American claiming that ucraine is winning hard. Living in your country must really sucks.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Ukraine is fighting off an aggressor. They wont surrender for as long as their military is still standing.

If all you're saying is you want Ukraine to die, then nobody is going to take you seriously.

[–]Rakean93Identitarian socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I don't want ucraine to die. I'm just stating a fact, they lost the war. On the up side, now they have a very strong national identity and will be able to secure 4/5 of the national ground. Most of the ucranian speaking population will establish in the post war west ucraine, and probably ucraine will enter in the EU (not the NATO - EU have something similar to NATO's article 5, but won't allow Americans to build bases in the country, so it's a win-win situation). Zelensky will keep his power for several years because now he's a national hero, but there's at least a little bit of hope that ucraine will develop a polish-stile hard nationalist party. I don't know if that will be good or bad for Europe, but that's what will likely happen.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Are we watching the same war?

Ukraine's Army is still fighting and have launched several counter attacks. They show no signs of stopping this.

Other than that, I don't know how else to help you. Perhaps travel to the country itself and volunteer? Why not go see the front lines and tell me if Ukraine has surrendered or not?

[–]Rakean93Identitarian socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Ok gringo, ucraine is winning hard.

[–]grassfed 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Are you a nigger?