A brief background to the American-Russian enmity and the conflict in Ukraine.

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[–]AidsVictim69 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Sorry but a lot of this is revisionist nonsense that is endemic on the right stemming from pathological centering of Jews as recent histories prime movers

The west was very chummy with the early USSR.

No it wasn't. The West repeatedly tried to assist the Whites in the civil war, including sending actual combat expeditions and material, and economic encirclement of the red state. There were some elements (including wealthy Jews to a seemingly outsized extent) within the West that supported the USSR but is a great exaggeration to describe the West as a whole as "chummy" with the early USSR. The Western group working closest with the USSR were the Germans (both pre and post nationalist socialist revolution), they traded technology (both military and industrial) for resources. Mobile warfare that defined WWII was developed by German generals using the USSR as testing grounds as part of the military agreement that allowed them to test new military technology and doctrine on Soviet soil to avoid technically violating disarmament agreements with the West.

Western capital and engineering firms built up Soviet industry

Western (including German) capital did help develop Soviet industry, which the Soviets payed for (i.e. it was trade), not some nefarious Jewish plot.

and the USSR would not have won the war without massive American assistance via lend-lease and the air war over Germany.

Western propaganda. The German offensives had already largely failed (1942) by the time lend lease became a significant factor (1943 or 44) in the war effort. The USSR wins either way.

That’s why the Anglo-Saxon powers(Britain and the US) handed all of Eastern Europe over to Stalin during ww2.

They "handed" them over because they would have been militarily incapable of winning the war without the use of nuclear weapons. The Soviet army was larger and more capable than the Western continental armies at the end of the war. Nor would most of the public have supported "part 2" of the largest war even seen.

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

and the USSR would not have won the war without massive American assistance via lend-lease and the air war over Germany.

Western propaganda. The German offensives had already largely failed (1942) by the time lend lease became a significant factor (1943 or 44) in the war effort. The USSR wins either way.

This is correct. The lend-lease myth is probably the 2nd most common misunderstanding about the eastern front. The first one being "if Hitler had just captured Moscow, we'd all be speaking German right now".

Stalin already had plans to fall back if Germany took Moscow and the Wehrmacht was going to get bogged down there just the same. Germany was also losing its ability to fight a 2 front war eventually either way.