This has been the plan with "defunding the police" all along

submitted by Nasser from self.debatealtright

https://nypost.com/2021/12/21/chicago-mayor-lori-lightfoot-wants-federal-help-to-stem-gun-violence/

Gut the police, massive crime wave ensues, reach out and call for federal vermin who answer only to the parasitic elite in Washington to take their place.

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[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I don't think so to be honest, the anarcho-tyranny model is way more effective for making them money and accelerating terrorism of white people. The police exist to generate revenue by victimising regular white citizens for non-crimes in speed traps and shit like that. They will continue to be used to terrorise law abiding citizens whilst ignoring actual crimes, like they do in my country (England).

What this stuff will really do is restructure the actual good police departments that are left to becoming money making schemes that ignore all actual crimes and just pick on random white people on the way to work and shit. Then America will gradually lose the right to defend themselves from actual crimes like we have in the UK.

For example: In the UK to be a police officer you have to have a degree and the training has a bunch of stuff about racial 'justice' and other anti-white nonsense that you have to pass tests on and such (I know people who have joined the police and they've showed me). This is to select for system-approvers from the middle class who are on board with anti-white ideology and other judeo-capitalist nonsense. What you'll see is the US moving more towards this kind of stuff. Police will just become more and more pozzed up so they're not really any different than the FBI qualitatively.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The police in the UK is an abomination.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Spot on, pigs are up there with jews as the two worst races.

[–]FrenologistSaving the World 1 Cranial Exam at a Time 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Of course. I said this when it all started. The goal is Federalized Police.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I thought they just wanted to let blacks commit crimes

for divide and conquer reasons

If they use the fed govt to send the ATF to try to take illegal guns from black gang members that'd be fine, that's what they supposed to do instead of the usual gun running like in fast and furious.

[–]FrenologistSaving the World 1 Cranial Exam at a Time 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Federalized Police, nation-wide, is the goal because it extends the power of the federal government and further-reduces the power of municipalities, counties and states. The feds hate the fact that so many police forces refuse to enforce many of their illegal edicts. The way around this lack of enforcement is to remove locally-controlled/funded police and replace them with federal police who are completely loyal to the federal government/UN agenda.

How to make this happen? Create massive crime-waves via, "Defund the Police," nonsense and then solve the problem by sending in federal police to replace the do-nothing local cops.

If they use the fed govt to send the ATF to try to take illegal guns from black gang members that'd be fine

I disagree. I think we should give blacks more guns and ammo because it's the best way to get rid of them.

"No more than five to ten people in a hundred who die by gunfire in Los Angeles are any loss to society. These people fight small wars amongst themselves. It would seem a valid social service to keep them well-supplied with ammunition." -Jeff Cooper

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I think a big reason for demonizing the polcie is they are one of the last unions left, along with teachers, and the elites have long wanted to get rid of unions. I know the feds are already involved in police depts, they coordinated taking down occupy wall st. They have gangs as a problem in chicago, aka organized crime. That has long been something the FBI first denied existed then JFK's brother got popular trying to take down. I'm sure the leaders of these black gangs, even tho they're idiots, are in communication with the feds

[–]negrogreBeing black is anti-white 0 insightful - 1 fun0 insightful - 0 fun1 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Unless you mean that they'll use the guns on other races, thus prompting a campaign against them, I disagree. Even then, you're further risking the lives of others.

[–]FrenologistSaving the World 1 Cranial Exam at a Time 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Move out of the city and you don't have to worry about it. The reality is that if you're ANYWHERE near where blacks live then you have to always watch your back. Black crime won't reduce just because blacks don't have guns. If blacks want to kill some faggot soy leftist they don't need guns. If they want to rob an Asian lady again, they don't need guns. Giving them more guns and ammo will inevitably reduce their numbers as the vast-majority of victims of black crime are blacks.

[–]negrogreBeing black is anti-white 0 insightful - 1 fun0 insightful - 0 fun1 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

If they can. There are many who can't though, or if they can, still need to work in the city.

Also they may not need guns for those, but giving them guns makes it that much easier. I guess you could tell those people what they expected by being in a neighborhood with violent blacks, I guess. In addition, what is the likelihood that the crime leaves one city and spreads elsewhere?

[–]FrenologistSaving the World 1 Cranial Exam at a Time 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What is the likelihood that the crime leaves one city and spreads elsewhere?

Generally speaking, criminal blacks don't move around from city to city or state to state--they're too poor. One major proof of this are the Hurricane Katrina transplants. Almost all of the poor blacks that were dumped around the nation in the wake of HK, are to this day, in the same places they were dumped. They only move around when corporate organizers buss them around for BLM riots. Regardless, the cities are infested with liberals and retarded normies and the ONLY way those people will see the error of their black-worship is if they're confronted with the often-deadly reality of black crime.

If they can. There are many who can't though, or if they can, still need to work in the city.

No one has to work in a city--that's a choice. The same goes for living in a city. Sure, there may be costs involved with moving but, what's worth more: your life or your job/house? It's time people start making tough decisions based on reality rather than expecting the government to do a single fucking thing that improves their lives. The government works for the government, corporations, Israel and global institutions--it doesn't work for the people.

If they use the fed govt to send the ATF to try to take illegal guns from black gang members that'd be fine

I realize this wasn’t your talking point but, approving of the ATF running through black neighborhoods looking for illegal guns is approving of an overbearing government agency intruding into the lives of private citizens. Let's say they start with blacks in black neighborhoods, do you think it stops there? I can tell you, without a doubt in my mind, that it wouldn't stop there. That mandate would ripple through the country and the ATF would be kicking in the doors of every gun-owning citizen looking for supposedly, "Illegal weapons."

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"Lightfoot further called on judges to immediately stop releasing defendants with ankle bracelets following their arrests for violent crimes including murder and kidnapping, calling the electronic monitoring system “fundamentally broken."

based lightfoot lol

[–]Fonched 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

On a note regarding police forces... there's a common trope saying that they share many ideals in common with the Klan, that many such people are also officers with a major case unearthing this fact. https://twitter.com/AP/status/1473647070682755075 What is your take on this?

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

https://t.me/EricStrikerTRS/12735

Propaganda wire service trying to humanize a Stasi spy. Not surprising, they used to build statues glorifying the children who snitched on their parents for ideological crimes.

None of the "kkk murder plots" he "foiled" were viable or real -- Moore drove all of them.

This is staged theater, where half the terrorists are literally actors, that the FBI puts on to justify their enormous counter terror budgets and give Jewish political donors to both parties at the ADL a bunch of hoaxes to use to discredit white advocacy.

The take away from this: if you decide to work as an FBI informant, you are pretty much ruining your own life as well as the lives of innocent people.

[–]Fonched 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This makes sense; maybe there is background information that is to prove that the KKK plots were fake. I wonder if any on the left who might be concerned by the article itself have insisted that these plots were indeed organic and that these far-right groups are using government agencies, rather than the opposite.

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https://national-justice.com/fbi-informant-claims-he-foiled-ku-klux-klan-murder-plot-heres-what-he-really-did