Black Man Rapes Woman on Public Train, Media Complains People Stood by and Watched

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[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (32 children)

Correct, 64x would be the likelihood of a black man perpetrating black/white interracial rape, when compared to a white man, which proves the point racists were trying make here. T

They were trying to make a point about white woman being at a much greater likelihood of being raped by a black man than a black woman by a white man. Stoking the fear of the black man thing.

The two things I have taken away from this discussion are:

1) Racists lie to try to justify the fear that they live with.
2) The racists here are exceptionally low IQ. It's not sufficient to point out their math errors, they can't do simple arithmetic, you have to walk them slowly through each basic calculation several times.

1 - Black men lack impulse control
2 - Black women are less desirable
Everyone already knew this though.

I didn't know those. Whats your best evidence for them?

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    [–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

    The point evidently intended to be conveyed by the image was the 64x part

    The wording is pretty clear. They evidently intended to stoke fear of the black man. The relative risk of rape is the relevant statistic.

    White women are at much higher risk of being victims as it stands already

    That's not proven. 1.9 times by convictions. But you'd expect less reporting and fewer convictions from reported rapes by black women.

    Now you're ignoring it.

    I'm not ignoring it. It's a mischaracterisation of the racist propaganda linked to.

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      [–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

      Blacks are raping whites over 11 times the amount of the reverse

      That's not what the lying, fear mongering statistic said. It said that white women were at 64 times the risk from black men than black women from white men.

      Racists have to lie to make their point. And therefore we can strongly suspect that the point doesn't stand on it's own.

      despite blacks having been only ~1/6th the size of the white population.

      What do you mean "despite". That makes no fucking difference.

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        [–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

        You've failed in your attempt to divert focus away from the issue that matters.

        For fuck's sake. I'm correcting your bad maths over and over again. "Oooh, but that's not what matters" doesn't excuse you.

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          [–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

          I didn't produce bad math.

          "despite blacks having been only ~1/6th the size of the white population."

          Is bad math. The ratio of population has the same effect of black on white crime as it does on white on black crime.

          I agreed with you that the image has bad wording yet you continue to divert attention to it even though it's irrelevant to the larger points.

          If you reckon the image had bad wording, you didn't agree with me. It had bad maths. It says that the risk to white woman from black men was 64 times that of the reverse. The correct value is 1.9 and much of the difference between that and 1 is plausibly racism in the justice system.

          The 64x does however give a valid scale to get a sense of the abuse behavior

          Not or doesn't. You could argue that 1.9 x does, but you'd be ignoring other demographic factors of you were to attribute that to race alone.

          because white women will still be their primary target at scale.

          You should present some evidence of this.

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            [–]Blackbrownfreestuff 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

            Hey u/yin and u/actuallynot, I'm a mathematician, so if you need more help, just let me know.

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              [–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

              He can't process the fact that a population only ~1/6th the size of its victims caused over 11 times the number of its black-white interracial rape.

              There's a different whole argument there, I address that the smaller group will tend to have more interracial rapes, because of the increased opportunity here.

              I didn't get into a discussion of that bad maths, because this bad maths is very straightforward: 1.9 times isn't scary enough for them to feel justified in their fear. So they said 64.

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                [–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

                You ignore what 64x represents.

                It represents racists being dumb at math, and attempting to fearmonger to try to explain to themselves the fear that they live with.

                Basically its a demographic of low IQ cowards.

                despite blacks having been only ~1/6th the size of the white population.

                That makes no difference does it. The proportion of perpetrators times the proportion of victims of opposite races is equal.

                1/6 x 5/6 = 5/6 x 1/6

                Because multiplication is commutative.

                Opportunity in no way negates the 64x scale estimate of disparity.

                11x.

                More blacks rape more often

                You've only presented data for "more blacks are convicted of rape more often". Don't try to claim that rapes are in the same ratio without evidence.

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                  [–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                  You've only presented data for "are convicted of rape". Don't try to claim that rapes are in the same ratio without evidence.

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                    [–]Blackbrownfreestuff 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

                    I had a really high fever from covid, so I'm not as sharp as I once was, but I'm happy to help.

                    I wouldn't worry about it. I don't want anyone to be raped, ever, but there is a silver lining here. White women recover and they are usually redpilled after this experience. Most of these victims weren't racist beforehand. I don't know if this makes me a bad person, but I lack sympathy when people who aren't racist get victimized by blacks.

                    [–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

                    How do you feel when they're victimised by whites?

                    [–]Blackbrownfreestuff 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                    If the offender is white, it's sad and tragic for everyone involved. There's really no positive that comes from it in that scenario. Another silver lining to the high offending rate amoung blacks is that it helps get these men off the street and into prison, where they belong. Here in the United States we call it the school to prison pipeline.

                    [–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                    What if after facing the inequities of the justice system, they become more aware of white privilege, and become more anti-white?

                    Here in the United States we call it the school to prison pipeline.

                    Keep an eye on that in Texas. Outlawing abortion has a history of increasing the diameter of that pipeline about four-fold over a 15 to 20 year time-frame.

                    [–]Blackbrownfreestuff 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                    What if

                    This is essentially getting down to the black question. Everyone has different ideas for solutions, very few of them are practical. If there is an alternative to putting black criminals in prison, that would make a good new post topic.

                    Keep an eye on that in Texas

                    Abortion is the dumbest hill for republicans to die on. There have been a few threads on here about this and I think most of us agree how silly this move is. If there is one thing the left and I can agree on is to give these people whatever birth control they want, abortion included. I'll gladly pay for it.

                    [–]Yin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                    Schadenfreude is especially potent for libshit women who base their life on "traveling" to shitholes and virtue signalling.

                    [–]Blackbrownfreestuff 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                    Why do niggers rape so much? What do you think causes this?