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[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

the Black Death probably came from the steppe near the Caspian sea

As far as I recall, the black plague came to Europe from Crimea. The Mongols were sieging a port city in Crimea and flung plague-ridden corpses over the city walls. Genoese merchants escaped and carried the plague with them to Italy. From there it spread to the rest of Europe

[–]VraiBleuScots Protestant, Ulster Loyalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yeah, that’s the first time/place it was recorded (excluding the Justinian plague), although the Italian/Greek factories there were importing goods, people & animals from all over the place so it doesn’t necessarily mean Crimea was where it came from originally.

Never the less, it does make much more sense that it originated near where it was first recorded, rather than in China, then travelling half way across the world without anyone bothering to write about it or it’s uniquely awful symptoms.

[–]indeegenes 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Deflect asian responsibility.

It's known the mongol commanders troops were getting felled by it so regardless of origin they were responsible by catapulting corpses into Caffa.

[–]VraiBleuScots Protestant, Ulster Loyalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

so regardless of origin they were responsible

Didn’t say they weren’t mate.