The wrong side won WW2.

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[–]Richard_Parker 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I have grave misgivings about Hitler, Himmler and the rest, both in terms of military incompetence at a strategy level as well as morally repugnant leadership both with respects to Eastern Europe and as well as Germans themselves. Those misgivings are not at the directive of things like the ADL, but of the sort that German officers and soldiers quite correctly had.

Notwithstanding that, Nazis were the least of all evils I spite of all that, and it just gets worse and worse as the true toll of the Allies way of doing things continues to unfold.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I had the same reservations about the German military as well, but at the same time, I now realize there were some things that no one could have predicted would go wrong.

Hitler probably expected Britain to join the Axis when he spared Dunkirk, which could have saw the entire Western world go to war with the Soviets. But since that condition was never met, Germany was left in a position to invade anyway, since Stalin was just waiting to do the same.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I feel world history was greatly altered when King Edward abdicated. He was in love with Wallis Simpson who was secretly a man. He was based and pro hitler but yeah he was gay and if not for that England would have joined Germany in the war.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Not a chance in hell. The monarchy had about as much real power in England then as it does today. In fact George VI hated Churchill and had Nazi sympathies himself. That's why Hess was addressing the letter he carried to Scotland to him and not to a government official.

It changed nothing.

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you're probably right but compare George's doing of nothing to Edwards working with the nazis thru back channels during the war, and Hitler was going to reinstate him as king if they won. And the royal family still has power, the politicians in UK are just for show, of course Rothschild tells the royal family what to do, but Edward got forced out partly because he wouldn't go along with it.