Something I don't get regarding Nationalists and the vaccine

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[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (15 children)

Couldn't be a global hoax, cause this deadly pandemic can't be contained...

If you're so confident Covid is fake, I dare you to take up a job in a Hospital. In fact, the medical industry is always short staffed for nurses, housekeepers and personal transporters. These are the people who have to touch or handle actual Covid positive patients or their belongings.

I bet you wouldn't last a day.

[–]Noam_Chomsky 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

Concerning a "deadly contagious virus".

Hypothetically, one person in a single household of 4 gets sick.

In bed for 3 days, and finally is taken to the hospital ER.

A fake test is given that has nothing to do with anything.

Response #1: If the test is negative.
The hospital staff give the ill person a hospital bed, and treat then normally. IV drips, medication, etc.
Nothing unusual.

Response #2: If the test says positive.
Ten the staff go berserk. They immediately isolate the ill individual from the other 3 family members.
Offer no medication or medical treatment, and try to put them on a ventilator. They pretend it's different.
They isolate then from their family.
The same family that never had any signs of illness, and probably never will.
The healthy spouse even slept in the same bed each night with the ill family member. Without issue. But because a bullshit test was performed the staff mechanically reacted as if this was a serious threat. It's as fake test, and the same ol flu.

I can't understand why this is so difficult to recognize.

It's an illusion. It's all a distraction from the actual disaster, and those banksters, technocrats, and politicians who are all responsible.

The 3 remaining family members that lived with the ill person are totally fine.
For now.

But the white-robed doctor-priests believed their leaders of and convinced the family to get an experimental injection.

They'll be dead or crippled in 3 years.

Now these deaths produce a reduction in entitlement expenses, which can alleviate some of the economic the pressure on the system.

That's the basic idea, anyway.

It actually gets much, much, much worse, but I realize that what I'm saying may sound crazy to you; given your comment.

Vaccine passports, mandatory injections, biometric IDs, and central bank digital currencies.

The banksters plan on linking these into a global penopticon.
A global prison planet.

If you anger the powerful, then they shut you out of the system.
Or kill you with an injection, etc.

What I'm describing is what they are planning.

The virus is a hoax. It's the regular ol flu.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

I'm sorry but I find it impossible to take your wall of text seriously, when visual evidence shows that people are still dying of the disease.

By calling it fake, you're trying to say that no one, NO ONE, in history has ever died to the virus, and it's all just one giant feature film put together by the lowest budget actors who all act in unison of dropping dead when it's called for.

Not even Shakespeare could write a play that realistic or convincing.

It's easier to sit behind a computer and rant about how fake the world is instead of actually trying to participate in it. Once again, take my challenge and apply for a job in a Hospital and explain how it's all fake. You being the fearless person should have no problem touching as many patients as possible, and returning to work everyday when all your co-workers are sick and expect you to cover for their workloads.

[–]Noam_Chomsky 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

I'm sorry but I find it impossible to take your wall of text seriously, when visual evidence shows that people are still dying of the disease.

I'm can understand why you feel this way.

The statistics indicate that Covid primarily kills the elderly, right?

I would propose an simple, but anecdotal experiment.

The indirect evidence should indicate which theory is more likely correct.

Go to your local news papers and look up the obituaries.

In the past, obituaries were almost exclusively filled with the elderly; assuming the death wasn't caused by a traumatic injury (car crash, etc.).

Count the number of deaths that are 69 y/o and below.

I'm predicting that between 1/4 and 1/3 will be deceased younger people.
By younger, I mean between the ages of 20 and 50.
Way below the avg expected life expectancy.

The cause of deaths will probably be unusually vague.

These are the people who died from the VACCINE!

The "delta variant" is the vaccine.

I'm interested in whatever results you find.
If the obituary is on a web page, then please do others a favor and reply with a link to the local page.

I'm interested in your feed back.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

So what are you saying? We should just let all old people die?

This is actually one of the most psychopathic arguments I find being made by anti-vax. You want to pick and choose who dies, even though anyone with a family wouldn't sacrifice a member for selfish reasons.

Or here's a better question for you: why should we let anyone die of the virus? Are you an extreme Capitalist who thinks money is worth more than lives? Keep in mind, that would put you on the same team that wants to replace the white race with third world immigrants to keep the GDP rising.

[–]Noam_Chomsky 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

So what are you saying?

Covid-19 IS the flu. Nothing more.
Media manufactured theater.

The covid death count ended in China with fewer than 5000 total deaths attributed to Covid.
Impossible in a country of 1.3 billion, unless it's a hoax.
It is a hoax. The ultimate PsyOp.

The vaccine IS the delta variant.
They are injecting people with gene therapy, and doing who knows what, or why.

It's the greatest criminal experiment in human history.

why should we let anyone die of the virus?

This question presupposes a new and deadly communicable illness.
There isn't.

We should just let all old people die?

We should always do whatever we can (within reason).

Provide the best flu treatment (etc.) for as many people as possible.

There's no avoiding the fact that people get old, sick, and die. That's life.
We can't completely prevent the eventual aging of our bodies.

However, we can encourage activities and dietary habits that will improve health.

What you should be asking yourself is, "WHY AREN'T ANY ALLEGED "MEDICAL AUTHORITY FIGURES" ENCOURAGING HEALTHY LIVING AND LIFESTYLES???

This is completely absent.

The CDC is officially called The Centers for Disease Control AND PREVENTION!!!

No discussion of vitamins, nutritious foods, exercise, hygiene (except for poisonous hand "sanitizers") or anything proactive/beneficial.

Are you an extreme Capitalist who thinks money is worth more than lives? Keep in mind, that would put you on the same team that wants to replace the white race with third world immigrants to keep the GDP rising.

This "pandemic" is a media PsyOp.

An illusionary spell that has been cast on the public mind.

The only tangible thing about this hoax in everyday life is the mask, and the paranoid fear-stricken public.

They put masks on everyone, because this is a show. The world stage has changed. We have moved into a new age, but the

When you recognize this, then everything makes sense.

But they're hiding something.

The banksters have robbed the public of it's wealth.

The economic system that created is collapsing, and they are using the Covid spell to misdirect the greatest fraud in history with a fake pandemic.

The founder of the world economic forum wok wrote a book called "Covid-19: The Great (economic) Reset".

It was published and released in print during June of 2020.
The word Covid was supposedly coined during Feb or March 2020.

Do you think he wrote, edited, published and printed that book in 4 months, or less???

This collapse and PsyOp was all planned out well before 2020.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

This question presupposes a new and deadly communicable illness. There isn't.

Ok man, you anti-vaxxers are just dumbasses.

Like I mentioned earlier, go work in a Hospital first before writing your next wall of text.

I don't know what line of work you are in (or assuming you work at all), but you clearly don't spend every day interacting with other people or society. That's your folly.

[–]Noam_Chomsky 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Ok man, you anti-vaxxers are just dumbasses.

I'm not an anti-vaxxer.

This is a mRNA gene therapy.
It's not a Vax.

Moderna wasn't started as a Vax company, and it still isn't. They do gene therapy.

RNA is imbedded in the name ModeRNA.

The new, and alleged "approved" Pfizer gene therapy is called ComiRNAty...

RNA in the word ComiRNAty!!!

You can't make this stuff up!?

Vaccines inject some material to essentially give your immune system some exposure to a pathogen, so it can strength it's immune system against infection.

That's the basic idea.

This crazy gene therapy permanently modifies the RNA in summer of your cells, so that they produce the disease inducing pathogen material.
That's the stated plan, anyway.

We're not supposed to investigate the contents of the injection, or even ask questions, so...

No animal trials.
No medium-term safety studies.
No long-term safety studies.

Every injected individual is their own personal-term study.
For as long as they survive. Literally.

Like I mentioned earlier, go work in a Hospital first before writing your next wall of text.

The craven cowards in the hospital know that they'll lose their job if they speak out.
They know.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

The craven cowards in the hospital know that they'll lose their job if they speak out. They know.

You don't have to say anything. Since you have no fear of diseases, they can send you to treat the patients, as the Doctors watch from a safe distance.

Repeat this for an entire year and then tell me if the virus is fake.

[–]Noam_Chomsky 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I have provided you with the obvious and inconceivable inconsistencies of both the government and pharma cartel's false narratives.

You appear to be frightened beyond logical comprehension.

Unfortunately, roughly half of my country's population has been similarly brainwashed.

Repeat this for an entire year and then tell me if the virus is fake.

Covid season is coming up. I think it starts at the end of Sept.

It's no longer "flu season", because the fake CDC figures suggests Covid cured influenza.

Anyway, I'd strongly advise against anytime getting any mRNA gene therapy injections.

Major hospital's may quickly exceed the healing capacity of the available staff, because many are quitting to avoid the mRNA gene therapy stab(s).

This additional manufactured staffing crisis will be insanely exacerbated by a combination of:

  • Annual influenza patients.
  • Hundreds of thousands (probably millions) of REKD and crippled experimental mRNA therapy victims.

You don't have to say anything.

In an honest society, what I've stated would be mainstream thoughts.

Regrettably, free speech is no longer a cherished western value.

[–]thefirststoneThat's my purse! I don't know you! 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The covid death count ended in China with fewer than 5000 total deaths attributed to Covid. Impossible in a country of 1.3 billion, unless it's a hoax.

Their numbers are political, regardless. It tells us nothing about the disease, unfortunately.

[–]Noam_Chomsky 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Their numbers are political, regardless. It tells us nothing about the disease

Actually, it confirms that this is all a hoax/PsyOp.

It's business as usual in China.

Infact, CDC reported figures are demonstrably more meaningless.

Study finds CDC inflated COVID numbers by 1,600%

An utter fraud.