Something I don't get regarding Nationalists and the vaccine

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[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (55 children)

Couldn't be a global hoax, cause this deadly pandemic can't be contained...

If you're so confident Covid is fake, I dare you to take up a job in a Hospital. In fact, the medical industry is always short staffed for nurses, housekeepers and personal transporters. These are the people who have to touch or handle actual Covid positive patients or their belongings.

I bet you wouldn't last a day.

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 4 fun -  (5 children)

I mean.. it's not ebola. You get it once from your patient load or wherever the hell you obtained it from and then carry on. It's a tough work load, and likely a massive pain in the ass, but it's not impossible. Anyone that fears handling patients dealing with infectious disease or their personal items, or can't handle dealing with potential death has no business being in the healthcare field where they're working directly with people. It proves how many people go into this field that have bare minimum passion or dedication for it, and just want paychecks.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Well damn, you cracked the case. Medical staff just get sick, and everything returns to normal the next day. Nevermind the fact that staff gets burned out because the number of patients with Covid increases everyday. Nope, can't possibly have anything to do with that.

Have you considered applying for a CEO position and sharing your wisdom with every other hospital in America or Europe?

Edit: And oh yeah, when Nurses are forced to quarantine from the disease, guess who is expected to cover their shifts? It's basically transferring the burden onto the next person until there's no one left to put up with this nonsense. Hence why there are constant staffing issues.

It proves how many people go into this field that have bare minimum passion or dedication for it, and just want paychecks.

It's a job that puts your life on the line everyday just to save someone else who may not even care about you or act like the virus is fake. Of course you would expect a better paycheck.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Alright now, smartass, just dismiss everything that I said as me claiming to be able to solve everything.

I understand burnout. I also understand that there are some of these places intentionally understaffing while their overarching hospital system buys up smaller surgical centers and other hospitals-- this will eventually become a monopolization. They treat their employees like dog shit too. A friend of mine has half his department out with it, was tested himself as positive at another facility (due to having symptoms), and then forced to take his sickly ass over there to do their own in-house rapid testing that uses the exact same technology-- only to get a negative. Instead of being cautious with a symptomatic employee and performing testing with a longer wait time and higher accuracy, they'll just take their chances on which of those rapid tests was the true result and have him plague rat about the place. That same facility refused to hire cleaning staff in some areas, left blood stained flooring in a walkway for over a week, and even put patients in rooms that weren't properly cleaned, leaving behind used patient care items in rooms. That wasn't even at the peak, and it's an extremely expensive hospital.

You live in Canada, you don't have to deal with the shystery, and frankly unsafe practices involved in the US medical industry. Pretending that these CEOs give a shit about anything other than money in their pockets is foolishness.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You live in Canada, you don't have to deal with the shystery, and frankly unsafe practices involved in the US medical industry.

Oh no, that's not true at all. For the last 12 months, I was directly at the epicenter of the Covid chaos. So much so, there have been multiple lawsuits launched against these medical facilities because the Directors/CEO's in charge, tried to downplay the virus which got several medical staff killed.

You're actually making my argument for me. Working in the medical field has been impossible, because since day one, we had to deal with nutsos in both the government, and the public at large, who believed trying to protect medical workers was a waste of time.

Once again, the only solution to a biological pandemic is a strong Nationalist government. A good friend of mine who also happens to be a Nurse that was doing constant 24 hour shifts also agreed with me. A high trust, homogenous society would value its population and do everything it can to minimize the damage. In Canada, the multicultural landscape actually showed how AWFUL combatting a virus is, because we got morons from different cultures who think throwing large parties and infecting hundreds of people is their god given right, even if it ends up killing people in the process. These same people too were also hopping on planes and traveling back and forth from the most infected countries (i.e India) and bringing back with them more viruses and their mutations. Whenever I voiced my opinion that this type of behavior is destructive, the answer I got was "you're just being racist".

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I'm gonna restructure my statement here, because the first one dismissed pretty important details and I admit to jumping the gun on answering. The medical industry attracts a lot of people that want the decent pay (and status in the upper ends)-- a lot of doctors that don't give a shit about patients, a lot of nurses that just wanted good pay for minimal education. This fucks people with passion for those roles over, because when it comes down to bigger events-- the ones that don't give a shit won't stick around. So you're going to naturally have people unwilling to go back to the field while covid is still going on. The ones that stay get reamed by the system, fucked for all their worth, and left with compromised immune systems from stress/being overworked/lack of rest. They still know what they're getting into, and many continue because infectious diseases aren't a deterrent, they're part of the job. Infection while you're run down (whether by staffing problems from shystery business practices or people not wanting to do those jobs anymore) will get you fucked up though. So yes, while they're being overworked-- not a great idea to be in vulnerable positions, under normal and not strained circumstances the dedicated ones would be handling this shit like a very busy peak. Is this making sense?

Outside of that, we've fucked up society and left it vulnerable to disease already. Allowing abysmal healthcare, letting government institutions like the FDA be corrupted with lobbying, allowing food ingredients and medications to be freely thrown at patients without proper analysis of the results, not incentivizing exercise programs for your people, etc., etc.. All of these things lead to unhealthy populations that are vulnerable from the get-go. I'm not going to argue with you on the dangers that can come with forced multiculturalism from developing countries. I nearly shat a condominium when my too young to be fully vaccinated with an MMR son was laying there with 104°F fevers. Fevers that weren't going down when we had a measles outbreak years back during the last big refugee crisis. I know very well that those "refugees" came from many different countries, and we got an extraordinarily small number of actual Syrians. Most of those countries weren't required to have vaccinations either and are medically risky to be allowed in public places where babies and very young children might be exposed to potential illnesses they could bring. My concern isn't race, it's disease control, and if they were white and unvaccinated or just trying to leech benefits I would tell them to turn right the hell back around too. They're not expected to carry the same standards of first-world nations for whatever reason, and that screws actual citizens over. Alas, we're expected to set ourselves on fire to keep others warm.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What "Patients with COVID"? The ones "detected" using the bullshit PCR test? Yawn.

[–]Noam_Chomsky 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

If you're so confident Covid is fake

Yep. It's fake AF.

The flu went away, rebranded.

It's a phony PCR test, for a phony hoax pandemic.

Do you think China contained it?
Nope.
They were in on it.

The banksters exported all of the manufacturing to China, and now they're using a fake pandemic as a pretext for the controlled demolition of the global economy.

The banksters have transferred their production investments to China, and the east.

The European pension funds were stolen. They are broke. Nothing.
The dollar is about to collapse. No treasure in the Treasury.

And meanwhile all is well in China.

China could never have accomplished this on their own. It wasn't even their idea.

The NGOs have been working towards this goal for almost a century.

Western govts robbed the public.

Paid our tax money for the manufacturing transfers, and subsidized the shipping expenses.
We paid for everything.

This was an inside job.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Dude, keep nailing it!!!

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

So what's the end game then? Destroying the world economy is not my idea of coming out wealthy. Especially since it's 1st world countries who have been hit the hardest.

Perhaps Haiti or Sierra Leone are going to rule the world when everyone else is gone?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

the rich have gotten much richer during the pandemic

costs went down for them while their small business competition died.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

If Covid goes on forever, none of their riches are going to matter since government's will have gone broke on trying to fight the virus. Just look at the rising debt of every G7 nation.

The pandemic is not sustainable unless they want a world where every country is dirt poor as Haiti.

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/12/global-debt-gdp-covid19/

It's like cutting down every tree and expecting a utopia to await you at the end. You might get rich in the short term, but in the long term you also just killed the planet.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

they do want most dirt poor and then to have a small middle class as a buffer, right now it is too large and prone to pressure them so they are mainly trying to reduce that

[–]Noam_Chomsky 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Perhaps Haiti or Sierra Leone are going to rule the world when everyone else is gone?

El Salvador ("The Savior") just made Bitcoin legal tender.

A shining light in the dark??? Who knows.

[–]Noam_Chomsky 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (37 children)

Concerning a "deadly contagious virus".

Hypothetically, one person in a single household of 4 gets sick.

In bed for 3 days, and finally is taken to the hospital ER.

A fake test is given that has nothing to do with anything.

Response #1: If the test is negative.
The hospital staff give the ill person a hospital bed, and treat then normally. IV drips, medication, etc.
Nothing unusual.

Response #2: If the test says positive.
Ten the staff go berserk. They immediately isolate the ill individual from the other 3 family members.
Offer no medication or medical treatment, and try to put them on a ventilator. They pretend it's different.
They isolate then from their family.
The same family that never had any signs of illness, and probably never will.
The healthy spouse even slept in the same bed each night with the ill family member. Without issue. But because a bullshit test was performed the staff mechanically reacted as if this was a serious threat. It's as fake test, and the same ol flu.

I can't understand why this is so difficult to recognize.

It's an illusion. It's all a distraction from the actual disaster, and those banksters, technocrats, and politicians who are all responsible.

The 3 remaining family members that lived with the ill person are totally fine.
For now.

But the white-robed doctor-priests believed their leaders of and convinced the family to get an experimental injection.

They'll be dead or crippled in 3 years.

Now these deaths produce a reduction in entitlement expenses, which can alleviate some of the economic the pressure on the system.

That's the basic idea, anyway.

It actually gets much, much, much worse, but I realize that what I'm saying may sound crazy to you; given your comment.

Vaccine passports, mandatory injections, biometric IDs, and central bank digital currencies.

The banksters plan on linking these into a global penopticon.
A global prison planet.

If you anger the powerful, then they shut you out of the system.
Or kill you with an injection, etc.

What I'm describing is what they are planning.

The virus is a hoax. It's the regular ol flu.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (36 children)

I'm sorry but I find it impossible to take your wall of text seriously, when visual evidence shows that people are still dying of the disease.

By calling it fake, you're trying to say that no one, NO ONE, in history has ever died to the virus, and it's all just one giant feature film put together by the lowest budget actors who all act in unison of dropping dead when it's called for.

Not even Shakespeare could write a play that realistic or convincing.

It's easier to sit behind a computer and rant about how fake the world is instead of actually trying to participate in it. Once again, take my challenge and apply for a job in a Hospital and explain how it's all fake. You being the fearless person should have no problem touching as many patients as possible, and returning to work everyday when all your co-workers are sick and expect you to cover for their workloads.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (21 children)

when visual evidence shows that people are still dying of the disease.

Most people dying of 'covid' had preexisting conditions or they were killed by healthcare providers who used an 'approved' cocktail of drugs and ventilators they knew would kill people. There's also 'visual' evidence people are dying from the vaccine but that evidence doesn't seem to have the same weight for some strange reason.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

covid is real and does kill people, also the vaccine doesn't work

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (19 children)

I admire the Asian culture and one of the things they value greatly is strict border control and great healthcare.

Distrusting your own medical professionals is only proof of a low IQ and low trust society since it breaks cohesion.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

Medical professionals aren't pushing the gene therapy. Jew cabal technocrats and Jew media are. "low iq" people don't really question much in my experience. They might complain or challenge but they don't 'question'.

It's also a weird claim to say that distruct of medical professionals is the sign of a 'low trust society'. We literally have millions of whites that got the vax without even the most cursory examination of the dangers or motives. That's SUPER high trust. Whites produce very high trust societies in fact it might just be their undoing.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

Now look at the people who distrust the vaccine? It's Blacks and Browns who disproportionately make up bigger numbers, yet I'm suppose to believe they're the ones who know best? The same people who could never have even identified the virus without white technology?

This is a horrible conspiracy to defend. Not just because of the contradictions, but also because of the millions of real people who have to put up with it. Like I said to the other guy, just spend at least 24 hours in a Hospital and come back and report how everything is made up.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

You've ignored my points. You've done this in the past. You're just here to shill vaccines. It's not a debate if you just ignore the person you're talking to and ignore their claims. In many threads you claims have been totally destroyed and you never change your opinion on any of them. It's quite strange. On the other hand you've done a weird change with many of your other positions. I'm very skeptical of you and your account radicalcentrist.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

You haven't debunked my claim from months ago, which was to go inside a Hospital or Clinic, and video tape reactions to the vaccines.

I don't know why you want to play stupid on this subject? Even the idea of "vaccine shill" is retarded. They're literally being given away for free. Nobody is actually paying to inject themselves with this stuff.

There really isn't much else I can say but let history judge you. If 10 years from now, the Covid denial turns out to be deader than even Flat Earth, then nobody is ever going to take you seriously in life. Just a warning.

And it's such a shame because I don't understand why anyone wants to waste time on such a fringe subject. China & Russia could launch nuclear missiles tomorrow, and you'll still harp on about vaccines being the end of the world? Come on.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

You haven't debunked my claim from months ago, which was to go inside a Hospital or Clinic, and video tape reactions to the vaccines.

That's not a claim. That's a request to go collect anecdotal evidence. The reason I know you're a shill is you aren't even arguing with me. I never claimed the vaccine would make people instantly die when they take it. I've said this multiple times yet you continue to strawman. You're definitely here in bad faith.

If your claim is that people are having bad reactions to covid 19 then I would refer you to multiple previous arguments where I brought out researchers and doctors explaining that spike proteins from injections are causing many of the symptoms we are seeing. The initial symptoms before the vaccines were just the regular flu season which grows worse and worse every year as the populace gets fat, over medicated, and older. The technocrats hijacked the regular flu season. You didn't respond to any of those lectures or papers though. I'm pretty sure you didn't even read them because you didn't bother to address any of the data or claims brought up. That's typical of people that don't want to debate. Most of the deaths in hospitals were caused by comorbidity, unnecessary drugs and misuse of ventilators. Nearly every 'covid' patient put on a ventilator died. It's the hospital protocols that are killing patients. (I'm going to just share that video for all the other people who might be reading this thread because I know you won't watch it and engage)

I don't know why you want to play stupid on this subject?

Ad hominem. That's low on the pyramid of debate. Another example of your disingenuous nature.

There really isn't much else I can say but let history judge you

Not an argument.

If 10 years from now, the Covid denial turns out to be deader than even Flat Earth

Lol. Typical shill tactic. Attempt to connect people with genuine data and questions about a massive government run vaccine program that effects billions of peoples health, wealth and livelihoods and you're connected to 'flat earth' conspiracy theorists. Hilarious. Also how does flat earth theorizing kill more people then the VAERS database has already shown? The only person that died from flat earth was a crazy dude that built his own rocket ship.

And it's such a shame because I don't understand why anyone wants to waste time on such a fringe subject.

How is a massive mandatory experimental gene therapy program a 'fringe subject'. There's real talk about the un vaccinated not being able to work, fly, buy groceries or attend public events. That's the creation of second class citizens. The right to work and travel are fundamental rights and taking them is tyranny. Australia is setting up 'unvaccinated' camps. How can anybody in good faith say that's not a serious and political expedient topic to debate and discuss?

China & Russia could launch nuclear missiles tomorrow

No they won't. Even a small amount of consecutive nuclear missile strikes cause atmospheric problems and debris that could fuck with the worlds crop production. There's of course the retaliation issue. There's no danger of nuclear war and even if there was it wouldn't make bad goy camps and gene therapy injuries any less important.

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Brain cells. They don't sell them at walmart.

[–]Noam_Chomsky 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

I'm sorry but I find it impossible to take your wall of text seriously, when visual evidence shows that people are still dying of the disease.

I'm can understand why you feel this way.

The statistics indicate that Covid primarily kills the elderly, right?

I would propose an simple, but anecdotal experiment.

The indirect evidence should indicate which theory is more likely correct.

Go to your local news papers and look up the obituaries.

In the past, obituaries were almost exclusively filled with the elderly; assuming the death wasn't caused by a traumatic injury (car crash, etc.).

Count the number of deaths that are 69 y/o and below.

I'm predicting that between 1/4 and 1/3 will be deceased younger people.
By younger, I mean between the ages of 20 and 50.
Way below the avg expected life expectancy.

The cause of deaths will probably be unusually vague.

These are the people who died from the VACCINE!

The "delta variant" is the vaccine.

I'm interested in whatever results you find.
If the obituary is on a web page, then please do others a favor and reply with a link to the local page.

I'm interested in your feed back.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

So what are you saying? We should just let all old people die?

This is actually one of the most psychopathic arguments I find being made by anti-vax. You want to pick and choose who dies, even though anyone with a family wouldn't sacrifice a member for selfish reasons.

Or here's a better question for you: why should we let anyone die of the virus? Are you an extreme Capitalist who thinks money is worth more than lives? Keep in mind, that would put you on the same team that wants to replace the white race with third world immigrants to keep the GDP rising.

[–]Noam_Chomsky 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

So what are you saying?

Covid-19 IS the flu. Nothing more.
Media manufactured theater.

The covid death count ended in China with fewer than 5000 total deaths attributed to Covid.
Impossible in a country of 1.3 billion, unless it's a hoax.
It is a hoax. The ultimate PsyOp.

The vaccine IS the delta variant.
They are injecting people with gene therapy, and doing who knows what, or why.

It's the greatest criminal experiment in human history.

why should we let anyone die of the virus?

This question presupposes a new and deadly communicable illness.
There isn't.

We should just let all old people die?

We should always do whatever we can (within reason).

Provide the best flu treatment (etc.) for as many people as possible.

There's no avoiding the fact that people get old, sick, and die. That's life.
We can't completely prevent the eventual aging of our bodies.

However, we can encourage activities and dietary habits that will improve health.

What you should be asking yourself is, "WHY AREN'T ANY ALLEGED "MEDICAL AUTHORITY FIGURES" ENCOURAGING HEALTHY LIVING AND LIFESTYLES???

This is completely absent.

The CDC is officially called The Centers for Disease Control AND PREVENTION!!!

No discussion of vitamins, nutritious foods, exercise, hygiene (except for poisonous hand "sanitizers") or anything proactive/beneficial.

Are you an extreme Capitalist who thinks money is worth more than lives? Keep in mind, that would put you on the same team that wants to replace the white race with third world immigrants to keep the GDP rising.

This "pandemic" is a media PsyOp.

An illusionary spell that has been cast on the public mind.

The only tangible thing about this hoax in everyday life is the mask, and the paranoid fear-stricken public.

They put masks on everyone, because this is a show. The world stage has changed. We have moved into a new age, but the

When you recognize this, then everything makes sense.

But they're hiding something.

The banksters have robbed the public of it's wealth.

The economic system that created is collapsing, and they are using the Covid spell to misdirect the greatest fraud in history with a fake pandemic.

The founder of the world economic forum wok wrote a book called "Covid-19: The Great (economic) Reset".

It was published and released in print during June of 2020.
The word Covid was supposedly coined during Feb or March 2020.

Do you think he wrote, edited, published and printed that book in 4 months, or less???

This collapse and PsyOp was all planned out well before 2020.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

This question presupposes a new and deadly communicable illness. There isn't.

Ok man, you anti-vaxxers are just dumbasses.

Like I mentioned earlier, go work in a Hospital first before writing your next wall of text.

I don't know what line of work you are in (or assuming you work at all), but you clearly don't spend every day interacting with other people or society. That's your folly.

[–]Noam_Chomsky 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Ok man, you anti-vaxxers are just dumbasses.

I'm not an anti-vaxxer.

This is a mRNA gene therapy.
It's not a Vax.

Moderna wasn't started as a Vax company, and it still isn't. They do gene therapy.

RNA is imbedded in the name ModeRNA.

The new, and alleged "approved" Pfizer gene therapy is called ComiRNAty...

RNA in the word ComiRNAty!!!

You can't make this stuff up!?

Vaccines inject some material to essentially give your immune system some exposure to a pathogen, so it can strength it's immune system against infection.

That's the basic idea.

This crazy gene therapy permanently modifies the RNA in summer of your cells, so that they produce the disease inducing pathogen material.
That's the stated plan, anyway.

We're not supposed to investigate the contents of the injection, or even ask questions, so...

No animal trials.
No medium-term safety studies.
No long-term safety studies.

Every injected individual is their own personal-term study.
For as long as they survive. Literally.

Like I mentioned earlier, go work in a Hospital first before writing your next wall of text.

The craven cowards in the hospital know that they'll lose their job if they speak out.
They know.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

The craven cowards in the hospital know that they'll lose their job if they speak out. They know.

You don't have to say anything. Since you have no fear of diseases, they can send you to treat the patients, as the Doctors watch from a safe distance.

Repeat this for an entire year and then tell me if the virus is fake.

[–]Noam_Chomsky 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I have provided you with the obvious and inconceivable inconsistencies of both the government and pharma cartel's false narratives.

You appear to be frightened beyond logical comprehension.

Unfortunately, roughly half of my country's population has been similarly brainwashed.

Repeat this for an entire year and then tell me if the virus is fake.

Covid season is coming up. I think it starts at the end of Sept.

It's no longer "flu season", because the fake CDC figures suggests Covid cured influenza.

Anyway, I'd strongly advise against anytime getting any mRNA gene therapy injections.

Major hospital's may quickly exceed the healing capacity of the available staff, because many are quitting to avoid the mRNA gene therapy stab(s).

This additional manufactured staffing crisis will be insanely exacerbated by a combination of:

  • Annual influenza patients.
  • Hundreds of thousands (probably millions) of REKD and crippled experimental mRNA therapy victims.

You don't have to say anything.

In an honest society, what I've stated would be mainstream thoughts.

Regrettably, free speech is no longer a cherished western value.

[–]thefirststoneThat's my purse! I don't know you! 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The covid death count ended in China with fewer than 5000 total deaths attributed to Covid. Impossible in a country of 1.3 billion, unless it's a hoax.

Their numbers are political, regardless. It tells us nothing about the disease, unfortunately.

[–]Noam_Chomsky 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Their numbers are political, regardless. It tells us nothing about the disease

Actually, it confirms that this is all a hoax/PsyOp.

It's business as usual in China.

Infact, CDC reported figures are demonstrably more meaningless.

Study finds CDC inflated COVID numbers by 1,600%

An utter fraud.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

During the covid pandemic, I've spent 5-7 hours in a row every day at a busy hospital for 2 weeks, outside the covid ward. Nothing happened. I had covid myself. I felt feverish for two days and but then I slept for 10-12 hours straight and it receded.

I've visited crowded unmasked markets hundreds of times without a mask and nothing has happened.

Stop wetting your panties over it. If you're below 60 and don't have serious co-morbidity like obesity, heart problems or blood pressure or cholesterol issues, its less dangerous to you than reckless cyclists.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Stop wetting your panties over it. If you're below 60 and don't have serious co-morbidity like obesity, heart problems or blood pressure or cholesterol issues, its less dangerous to you than reckless cyclists.

Covid is a disease that some say came from a Pangolin. Other than the fact that these animal to human transmissions have always been a threat to us (i.e would you eat beef that was contaminated with mad cow? If not, would you support a factory that still sells tainted meat?), there's still the issue that the disease has long term effects that lower quality of life. Such as degrading mental health in 1/3rd of survivors.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/a-third-of-covid-19-survivors-suffer-neurological-or-mental-disorders-study-finds-1.5376970

I have every right to be pissed at this the same way I don't want illegal immigrants in my country. I didn't ask for the virus. I didn't ask to be INFECTED with the virus. I don't really care if you got it and claimed to have recovered. There's still the question of why are we letting a foreign disease circulate in the first place and ruin the lives of people who didn't want to become apart of it?

I would absolute push a button tomorrow that said Covid could be eradicated. It was a mistake to bring it inside our countries to begin with, and it's even worse that we do nothing to stop its spread.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

There are countless contagious diseases that threaten human life. We don't get lockdowns or experimental vaccine mandates for any of them. And covid spreading to the world was unavoidable. Even North Korea has it despite being sealed off from the rest of the world. In an age of easy international travel, it's inevitable for the disease to spread.

COVID spreads for the same reason Ebola didn't. Ebola was too virulent and killed too many of its hosts. Thus it couldn't spread. People could easily identify the infected and isolate them. The same is not true for covid. Covid is largely benign and it kills very few people and for more than 90% of people it's asymptomatic. So you can never contain it completely.

All diseases have a natural evolutionary path towards becoming more benign to their hosts. Because benign viruses survive and reproduce more as they don't kill their hosts and die with it. COVID would go the same way if we simply ignored it and didn't do lockdowns and vaccines.

Leaky vaccines on the other hand prevent this evolution to harmlessness. They prevent deadly strains from killing their hosts and go extinc, thus in the long run proving to be a threat to the unvaccinated. And it makes the population permanently dependent on vaccines. It would be like insulin for diabetics. Without it you'd die. Thus the human race would permanently become enslaved to the medical companies.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There are countless contagious diseases that threaten human life. We don't get lockdowns or experimental vaccine mandates for any of them. And covid spreading to the world was unavoidable.

That says more about our failure to secure our borders, rather than accepting these diseases as normal.

Like look at 9/11? Hijackers crashing their aircraft was an unexpected phenomenon, yet if we let every passenger walk up to the cockpit, they would most likely do it again. Rather than take the chances, just ban people from getting close to the steering wheel until the plane reaches its destination. You're not losing your "freedoms", it's an extra level of security meant to prevent future disasters.

Covid now represents that exact same paradigm shift. It's not a good thing to let anyone who came in contact with a foreign disease, walk past airport security. Let them quaratine for two weeks and prove they're not sick, before being allowed back into civilization.

Millions of lives would be saved, and there would be no lockdowns. We could have even achieved this at the start of 2020, but once again, we had too many morons in both government, and public society, who said wearing a mask is pointless, and you shouldn't cry if your parents were later found dead.

That's the recipe for a low trust, dysfunctional society. Asian countries proved this lolbertarian nonsense wrong on day one and they are still doing much better than us.