We are losing badly

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[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

To be fair, guy mentioned utilizing media as a way to reach out. He might be from a different age demographic where TV reaches people, since you would technically have to convince those people as well if you were interested in having a stronger interest towards your cause. He also made several points about white people pushing back against racism or what is publicly perceived as racism, and he's not wrong. That's not exactly blackpilled, that's understanding the psychology of what people will do to avoid potential discomfort and disruption of their lifestyle. People do absolutely retarded shit to avoid social stigma and all of the repercussions that come along with it, even if a point made makes 120% sense. They will go out of their way to rationalize bad ideas for the same reasons, to try to convince themselves that at least parts of something are good to make themselves feel better about it, and then go on to distract with something else.

He's banned now, so it doesn't matter much for the next 2 weeks anyway.

[–]Ponderer 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

He also made several points about white people pushing back against racism or what is publicly perceived as racism, and he's not wrong.

Maybe, but he wasn't really formulating that as a logical statement of fact, as some kind of revelation, or as part of a rational argument. It was more just presented as something to be "pessimistic" or depressed about.

That's not exactly blackpilled, that's understanding the psychology of what people will do to avoid potential discomfort and disruption of their lifestyle.

But he explicitly states in his last post "Reality is a blackpill"

He has also made statements like "Yes, that's why there's no foreseeable hope, whites are too stupid to save their race." and things like that very frequently. He often says that there is nothing that can be done, or that all activism is useless. Only when pushed to the limit will he give any solutions, and even then it's utterly non-specific non-answers like "work hard", "put up flyers", or "use television".

I would give this guy the benefit of the doubt if he titled this post "We are losing badly, but here's how we can turn things around" and actually offered solutions. Or even if he came out and admitted he was blackpilled and gave well-sourced reasons why. But instead he plays this weird game of openly demoralizing, and then jumping back and saying "oh, actually I'm trying to encourage you."

At the very least it feels like he's misrepresenting his positions.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

There's kind of a lot going on in the world to be depressed and pessimistic about, so it's understandable for folks to express that even outside of the contexts within your sub. If his posts seem that suspicious or wishy washy, I guess that makes sense to question the integrity of them. He could just legitimately be god awful at explaining his points though. No clue.