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[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Hence - your bullying in every response and your agreement here that you're normally interested in getting me banned - is again evidence that your responses to me are ALWAYS in bad faith (ie. hypocritical). Why should I or anyone you bully respond to these bullying tactics? (I asked you this earlier, but you cannot or will not answer it.)

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

So you can bitch about my alleged bullying and I can bitch about your perpetual bullshit all day - or until /u/d3rr weighs in on it.

Or you can actually try to debunk what Jimmy Dore said.

Or you can try to explain like I'm 5 how I'm a hypocrite and you're not - or how I'm always in bad faith when it's you who are perpetually bullshitting on a site that does not like you.

Why should I or anyone you bully respond to these bullying tactics?

Why should I engage you who keeps calling me a bully when it's you who are lying and keep bullying me?

(I asked you this earlier, but you cannot or will not answer it.)

I answered it several times. You choose not to accept my answers and would rather dwell in /s/Victimhood than have the original discussion that you've been deflecting and procrastinating, about Jimmy Dore's video about the Fraud Squad.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

None of this is happening, for reasons I've already mentioned.

(If you genuinely want to discuss Jimmy Dore, don't bitch-slap the person you want to discuss this with.)

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

None of this is happening, for reasons I've already mentioned.
(If you genuinely want to discuss Jimmy Dore, don't bitch-slap the person you want to discuss this with.)

Alright then. Let's call a truce, be respectful of each other, Jimmy, and the Squad - and let's discuss the OP video.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Perhaps this one

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Why would you pick an unrelated, obsolete, and irrelevant video from February 19, 2016 about Republicans when I want to discuss the efficacy of your beloved Democrat progressive Squad?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PI3TqgC8uME

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I thought that was rather kind of me - to select a J. Dore topic that addresses a relevant topic. (I've not begun to address your first question.) Regarding a "squad" of Democrats, I think this grossly oversimplifies the work of those people for the sake of entertainment value and to satisfy Dore's donors. It cheapens and debases the discussion so that the substance of the work of those ladies can be avoided and glossed over. Really, I am not the best person to ask about Dore. He's too shallow. There are many others on Saidit who will happily tell you how awesome he is. I don't have videos of "This Week with George Stephanopoulos," but I used to watch that show and the other early morning Sunday political pundit discussions, and would have been more interested in discussing those.

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I thought that was rather kind of me - to select a J. Dore topic that addresses a relevant topic.

It was an underhanded jab at "bullies" intended to get a negative reaction from me.

Regarding a "squad" of Democrats

Not A squad, they are THE self-described Squad of progressives within the Democrats. They have leverage and power and refuse to use it effectively to help people.

substance of the work of those ladies

What substantial work have they done besides talk a good talk?

We can discuss George and others after.

Really, I am not the best person to ask about Dore. He's too shallow.

I don't care about your opinion of Dore, or other people's opinions. You're avoiding the issues and substance of what he was talking about.

Did you even watch the video?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

OK Jason - I've listened to the entire 22 minute rant. What's the overall message?: Dore says that the "shitlibs" aren't doing enough to help people. How does he argue this?: noting that their work to extend the national eviction moratorium - which was recently successful - is (somehow) terrible because it does not include additional information about an overall plan, other kinds of support, and so much more. Did the Democrats do anything wrong by extending the national eviction moratorium? Did Republicans lift a finger on this? What's wrong with their work to extend the national eviction moratorium? Absolutely nothing. Should they do much more than this? Sure. Should they have shown all of their cards right after that victory to extend the national eviction moratorium? No - because that's not how one celebrates achievements, by telling those who granted the extension - "thanks! and now we'll focus on extending A, B, & C! Take that motherfuckers!" - or is it a time to appreciate this success with the extension and move on to other matters. It's already obvious that these people work for the 99%, and they're now working on other ways to support the 99%. But they do sleep, eat 2 or 3 meals a day, take their dogs for walks or whatever. Everything takes time. Is Dore helping anyone with that video? No. Is he trying to convince people that the Democrats who helped with the extension are somehow bad people and don't care about the 99%? Yes. Why is this? Who pays his bills? Subscribers who want to hear misleading ranting by Dore? Will they vote for Republicans because the "shitlibs" Dore talks about aren't doing enough to help people who face evictions? Will those Republicans do anything to help people who face eviction? Absolutely NOT. If you don't like shills, you shouldn'y like Dore, who is obviously shilling for the right-wing. His complaints about the successes of the Democrats to extend the national eviction moratorium are absolutely ridiculous. Why not help those people who face eviction? How is that not supporting the 99%? Dore says that these shitlibs should be doing much more. The fact is: they are indeed doing much more for the 99% than others on the Hill. Did they pull a publicity stunt in order to get the extension? Sure, whatever it takes. Why is this a problem? Does Dore want to argue that they've merely put a bandaid on the symptom rather than address the cause? First - it was a necessary bandaid for thousands of people, if not millions. Second - they are the primary group addressing these problems. Many other congresspeople won't bother to to help the 99% and should be voted out of office. I am impressed with this group, and did not know about the extension or the publicity until I saw this video. It's very good to know that it worked. As for Dore, he's one of the worst people I've seen in a video, even by comparison with Mexican cartels cutting off the heads of their victims. Dore is influential for people who will elect Republicans and thus fuck over the 99%. In a Republican-controlled congress, there would have been no extension to the national eviction moratorium (because Republicans work ONLY for the 1%, not the rest of us). One has to rely on the Democrats at the moment. Elect new people - I'd argue - people who will represent the 99%.