What do you think National Socialism got wrong?

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[–]Richard_Parker 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

The leadership. Hitler, Himmler, Goebbels, Goering, the others acted in morally repugnant ways not jsut to other Europeans, but even the German people. Hitler was not pan-European, but espoused a particularly rabid sort of German nationalism that sought to brutalize Slavic Europeans in particular.

And then you have a whole chain of military blunders that sealed Germany's fate.

I still think they are probably the lesser of all evils, but I am pretty much with Ernst Nolte on this, not to mention a number of Germany's best military leaders. I am pro Wehrmacht, pro Nazi in a way, but anti Hitler, as I acknowledge most of Germany's grievances that led to the war and gave Germans reasons to follow Hitler are absolutely legitimate. But Hitler is anathema to me although no more than Churchill, Stalin, Allied hypocrisy, etc.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Hitler was not pan-European, but espoused a particularly rabid sort of German nationalism that sought to brutalize Slavic Europeans in particular.

There are people that believe that any 'nationalism' is 'rabid nationalism'. So I always laugh when people criticize Hitler on those grounds. That's what nationalism is. It's a fanaticism for your volk and your soil. Without a radical fanaticism someone else essentially takes your shit. That's how nature works and that's how history shows us that nature works.

sought to brutalize Slavic Europeans in particular.

Slavic people were hijacked by communism. In particular a nasty strain of it called Bolshevism that would have steam rolled Germany and the rest of Europe had Hitler and his NS party not arisen. They weren't anti slavic they were anti communist and anti any ethnic group that promotes a world dominance using banking or communism, see: Jews.

Please take the time to read this lecture

https://rense.com/general34/amaz.htm

And this blog post does a good job of debunking the 'Hitler thought slavs were inferior' myth

https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=12690

Bottom line. Hitler was fighting international Jewry that are essentially a criminal cartel specializing in blackmailing (mostly through child sex trafficking) world leaders and eliminating or pressuring nationalist leaders. This was as true in the 20's and 30's as it is today.

[–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

They considered them inferior but not "subhumans" who needed to be exterminated.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They considered them inferior

He might have started with that position in the 20's but in the late thirties the party was realizing they were going to have to govern quite a few slavic peoples. Even the 'inferior' language was softened and slavic people (that rejected communism) were lumped into the Germanic people's community. The people's community being a layer removed from full citizenship but with many of the perks of and protections of German citizenship. Wish I could recall where I read that though. If anybody has a document referencing this info please let me know because this conversation seems to come up a lot.