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[–]Ponderer[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Maybe suggesting "climbing through the institutions" isn't the best example, since I agree with you, they are largely closed to us now. I'm a firmer advocate of building new ones.

My main point is that having online flame wars or pseudo street battles is fruitless and is largely for people who want to feel like they're accomplishing something when they're not. Real success takes hard work and organizing over a long period of time.