Blackpill content is a form of psychological warfare and rightists should be extremely wary of it.

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[–]Ponderer[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I think there's a difference between taking a reason-based position like "Many white people intrinsically hate themselves, therefore it only makes sense to support the subset of whites that don't" versus something like "our situation is hopeless, white people are too stupid to be saved."

Even in the darkest of times, there is always something positive that can be done to improve things. Demoralization is merely a form of self-harm, as well as a way to psychologically harm others.

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Even in the darkest of times, there is always something positive that can be done to improve things.

Agreed, even if it might seem (to some) like on the level of adding parsley to a shit sandwich.

It's not that white people in particular are too stupid, it's that human beings in general are too easy to manipulate. Look, we've gone from beating known faggots in the community to kids cutting off their own dicks with the approval (or at least tolerance) of the masses.

Am having a somewhat similar exchange with the radicalcenterist account, and he blames everything on 'the boomers'. As if we were supermen compared to the kind of people seen today.. We obviously weren't cutting our own dicks off, so maybe it could be said as "less propagandized by a still unperfected technology", but the manipulation wasn't as widely known then either.

Demoralization is merely a form of self-harm, as well as a way to psychologically harm others.

Am I misreading this, or are you essentially agreeing that people in general are so emotionally weak that exposure to reality is harmful to them? Kind of like the screaming woman meme not being entirely unrepresentative of humanity as a whole?

Maybe my expectations are just way too high.

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he blames everything on 'the boomers'. As if we were supermen compared to the kind of people seen today..

I agree, I think it's silly to blame everything on one generation. In any case it would have been a small percentage of people in power making the decisions. It's kind of like blaming all millennials or all Gen Z for transgenderism existing. It's not their fault, it's the people in charge of the media.

Am I misreading this, or are you essentially agreeing that people in general are so emotionally weak that exposure to reality is harmful to them?

Two things:

  1. It's not reality. It's a concentrated feed of the worst aspects of reality. If all you read is bad news, your vision of the world will become distorted and you will start to see things as hopeless. It's a bit like working as a 9-11 phone operator - eventually you would come to think assaults, rapes, murders, and thefts were happening all over the place, to everyone, all of the time, when in reality they might be fairly rare. You would just be overexposing yourself to them, and underexposing yourself to the more positive parts of life.

  2. I don't see people as emotionally weak for reacting this way. Even the bravest, most hardened warriors experienced shell shock. You might say that being next to an exploding shell is nothing like reading a news article, but psychologically... have you never gotten furious about something you saw on TV, or read on the news? Or maybe it was something good, and it made your day. If you can feel that strongly about something you've read, then so can others, and for other emotions like depression and demoralization. It would be a little absurd to say that the media we expose ourselves to has no emotional effect on us. Over a long enough timespan, that effect can become more and more pronounced, until it consumes your entire personality. That is why we have the epidemic of "doomers" we see today.

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Thanks for this. I believe the positive and negative aspects of our current reality are unevenly distributed. That is, yes, the plants in the garden are growing fine, the sun is shining, and the waves are crashing on the beach. The weather here is better than any other place, and the physical characteristics are pretty outstanding. So there are positives.

Politically, it looks like they've decided to implement dystopia, and most people are just accepting it as the new "guidance" from their boss. That seems like the concentrated feed of the worst aspects of reality has become the new way of life outside my front door.

Where is the civil war? Why are the people openly doing this not being assassinated? The lack of any resistance to the end of our society is a real doom-pill. I've always wanted to be wrong about our species, but I would have to be on drugs to ignore what's happening.

If all you read is bad news, your vision of the world will become distorted and you will start to see things as hopeless.

While this is true, sometimes the only news about certain aspects of reality is bad. Most of our species are herd animals, who follow any orders given. I've been seeing extreme examples of that outside my door and on the internet for the past 1.5 years.

Maybe I need to recalibrate my expectations, as they seem to have become unrealistically high back in 2015. Even though Trump admitted the day after the 2016 election that he lied to get elected, I did kind of get sucked into the fantasy that humans are more than they are. That hopium is a hell of a drug.