Hungary to Refuse Afghan Refugees, Won't Make Citizens Pay for U.S.' 'Flawed' Decisions

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[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (15 children)

Yeah, yeah. I already saw the snarky reply before you deleted it.

It doesn't require fear to understand that a country that gets plate scrapings from the EU as is shouldn't be required to take on people within its country that are not wanted. It's Hungary. They probably wouldn't even want French refugees.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

Total EU spend in Hungary – € 6.298 billion

(equivalent to 4.97% of the Hungarian economy)

By contrast:

Total contribution to EU budget – € 1.076 billion

(equivalent to 0.85% of the Hungarian economy) source

Hungary asylum restrictions broke European law source, source, source

Moreover, hundreds of thousands of Hungarian migrants to EU countries since joining the EU are among the reasons for EU countries updating their own visa requirements, and one of the reasons the UK's Brexit was popular. source The EU should act as a unit, or break up.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

one of the reasons the UK's Brexit was popular.

So you're equating a country receiving immigrants from another country that was within its own continent and part of the EU (at the time) that is still VERY happy to take on other immigrants with a country not wanting to take on refugees due to concern for its own people? Ketamine goblins having to work alongside Eastern Europeans and getting their panties in a twist about it is not the same thing as being forced to take in refugees that may or may not do anything aside from collect government aid at minimum, or cause harm to their own citizens in a worse scenario. Maybe if they accepted women and children under 18 with verifiable documentation to prove date of birth, but obviously that's not going to be a thing.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ketamine goblins having to work alongside Eastern Europeans and getting their panties in a twist about it

LOL - Yeah, that's one way to put it!

being forced to take in refugees that may or may not do anything aside from collect government aid at minimum, or cause harm

Yes, a valid concern, and there are movements in the UK (London, Bradford, Luton, Leicester, Birmingham) to maintain private (illegal) Sharia Law courts for some communities, which is horrifying. a vanilla source on this

My main point is that EU members should act together, rather than some of them - especially the poorest of the lot who've used the EU to migrate out of their own countries to richer countries - making exceptions for themselves regarding human rights, immigration &c. To stay in the EU, they must abide by similar EU standards.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

The EU should act as a unit, or break up.

I agree. It should close its external borders forever and send back all nonwhites who live in Europe.

As far as EU transfers to Hungary are concerned, I'm 100% in favor of it. I want my tax money used to help my fellow European brothers and sisters. I don't want it used to help nonwhites in my own country who just happen to have a piece of paper that tells them they're citizens. They will never be European.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

I'm not sure you genuinely want to debate this issue, but:

send back all nonwhites who live in Europe

I see your concern, but this would be impossible, as there are 105 million minorities in Europe, or 14% Europeans. source

They will never be European.

They do indeed become Europeans, as had other minorities of Europe, dating back thousands of years.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

I see your concern, but this would be impossible, as there are 105 million minorities in Europe, or 14% Europeans. source

So, as if by magic, these very people are able to be transferred to here but not from here? Lol what the fuck kinda stupid libtard magic is this? Do you have rooms in your house that you can only enter but not exit too because of this magic?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

No need to be so surprised. Think about the logistics of identifying, documenting, gathering, and trying to export 105 million people to locations known only to their grandparents, or to their great great great grandparents, to places that would not accept these descendents, not to mention recent Syrian refugees &c.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Think about the logistics of identifying, documenting, gathering, and trying to export 105 million people

Was easy enough to scour the entire planet to bring them in but it's somehow impossible to do the exact same thing for people already in our borders? Something's not right with your calculations friendo.

locations known only to their grandparents, or to their great great great grandparents

Europe was completely unknown to them, this is yet another horrifically stupid argument.

to places that would not accept these descendents

lol too bad, their home countries can do whatever they want with them then. We have no responsibility to strangers.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Seriously?

There have always been minorities in Europe. (Read a book?)

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Yes seriously. Your 'arguments' are just tired NPC memes then you wow-just-wow post and tell people to read a book, without specifying which one, once your shitty arguments unravel LMAO. You're literally beyond a caricature of the NPC meme.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

So you've genuinely never heard about the history of minority groups in Europe, yet you want to tell me about my "stupid libtard magic" regarding the impossibility of extracting 105 million minorities?

First, think about the wonderful success of that time when Germans put minorities in internment camps. Didn't work well, did it? Was there initially an intent to gas a buch of them? No (and don't believe biased authors who think the camps were always for gassing people, which is not true)

Second, a popular example is Moorish Spain, c. 7th -15th centuries, more about which is here: Jews, Visigoths and Muslims in Medieval Spain (Mediaeval Iberian Peninsula): Cooperation and Conflict: 10 (Medieval Iberian Peninsula), by Norman Roth, 1994

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

this would be impossible

This is the enemy speaking.

They do indeed become Europeans

DNA disagrees.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is the enemy speaking.

Yikes - virtually anyone who is not an insane schizo racist is "the enemy".

| They do indeed become Europeans

DNA disagrees.

The 'genius' or soul of a place is its inhabitants, ragardless of DNA