Alt-right and Mugabe

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[–]NolobenGlory to Great Russian Empire! Today Ukraine, tomorrow Canada![S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (24 children)

I am still the Hitler of the time. This Hitler has only one objective, justice for his own people, sovereignty for his people, recognition of the independence of his people, and their right to their resources. If that is Hitler, then let me be a Hitler tenfold. Ten times, that is what we stand for.

  • Robert Mugabe

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (23 children)

Where's the anti-zionism and globohomo opposing him? I've only ever seen him praised like MLK or Gandhi are.

[–]NolobenGlory to Great Russian Empire! Today Ukraine, tomorrow Canada![S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (22 children)

Are you confusing him with Mandela? In the 2000s whining about Mugabe was a cause celebre of all the "human rights" activists, western governments, and especially faggots like Peter Tatchell. He was a victim of a literal globo-homo campaign for gay rights. The mainstream media, Bush, Obama, Blair, and the rest of the globohomo elite attacked him as a "dictator" constantly and pushed for "democracy". Nobody in the mainstream liked Mugabe. Where are you getting that idea?

[–]YORAMRWWhite nationalist, eugenicist 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (21 children)

Why in the hell should we care that he got criticized by our enemies for disliking faggots, especially since almost everyone in the third would does? We're pro-white (unlike you, as this post and your comments on it have clearly shown), while Mugabe was anti-white and literally directed a genocide against the white population in "his" country built on top of the very same whites.

I don't know if you're just a black, brown or Jewish shill/troll who hates white people like most of them do, or if you're white and genuine, but if you're in fact white and genuine, rooting for an anti-white psychopath like Mugabe just because he also dislikes fags must mean you must have such a strong lack of racial ingroup preference that you could only be severly mentally ill and would be sterilized and locked up in an insane asylum in any sane white-run society.

Given your flair, it's of course no surprise that you hold those views. Not only is Alexander Dugin (the founding father of your ideology) anti-white, he also literally supports Mugabe and the black Zimbabweans just like you do. (The Dugin quote in question). I guess this is what putting ideology above race does to MF: Some vague universal principles, like being anti-Jewish, being socially conservative, being anti-capitalist and/or being third wordist/anti-imperialist, become so much the focal point of your worldview to the point that you'll literally support suiciding your own race as long as it fullfils one of those principles.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (20 children)

Alexander Dugin wasn't even born when NazBol was a thing retard, nor is he even a NazBol. Nor is the OP a NazBol, he's a Maoist third worldist.

[–]YORAMRWWhite nationalist, eugenicist 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (19 children)

Alexander Dugin wasn't even born when NazBol was a thing retard

I've looked up national bolshevism again and it turns out that you're right about this one, my bad. But other than that, my point still stands, Dugin and OP are both self-proclaimed nazbols and they literally hold the same views on Mugabe. Also, why do you always get so hostile to people when they criticize Dugin, even though he's literally anti-white? Almost as if you fanatically support him or something.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

I don't even like the guy, I'm a fascist and he's some kind of theocratic Traditionalist/Reactionary or some shit. I just find these ignorant assertions about him annoying as fuck because of how stupid they are.

You realise Dugin hysteria was invented by fucking Glenn Beck right? You're mouthing some stupid ass boomercon talking point, you might as well be talking about Marxist businesses or some other equally retarded boomercon talking point.

[–]YORAMRWWhite nationalist, eugenicist 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

I don't even like the guy, I'm a fascist and he's some kind of theocratic Traditionalist/Reactionary or some shit. I just find these ignorant assertions about him annoying as fuck because of how stupid they are.

Then why do care so much when people criticize Dugin. You apparently don't like Dugin, your worldviews are different, and the assertions of him are stupid anyways, so it wouldn't make sense for you to defend Dugin so much.

You realise Dugin hysteria was invented by fucking Glenn Beck right? You're mouthing some stupid ass boomercon talking point, you might as well be talking about Marxist businesses or some other equally retarded boomercon talking point.

Do you really think Dugin didn't actually say those things in the quote I shared? Assuming he did say those things, this means he's very anti-white. How am I supposed to know about Glenn Beck and him inventing the Dugin hysteria(?), I haven't really looked that much into the Dugin stuff.

I'm pro-white, and I just see that someone is anti-white, that's more than enough reason for me to hate that person. If being pro-white, and hating anti-whites regardless of what other views they may hold besides being anti-white (or who their allies and enemies are), makes me a "stupid ass boomercon", then so be it, but by that logic over half of this sub would be "stupid ass boomercons" as well.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Regarding beck and dugin if you want a laugh the old video of him doing a big white board presentation and 'connecting the dots' and showing how dugin is part of this worldwide bond villain style plan is actually fucking hilarious and well worth watching.

[–]YORAMRWWhite nationalist, eugenicist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

That sounds fun, do you have a link or the title of the video? I can't find it anywhere

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Yes more than half of this sub are retarded, that's no excuse for you to indulge also. I care about telling people to stop being retarded because I want to help our guys be smart enough to win.

[–]YORAMRWWhite nationalist, eugenicist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I agree that if over half of the sub was retarded this shouldn't give me a free pass for being retarded as well, but I don't see how hating anti-white political figures for being anti-white (even if they share a common enemy with us and/or agree with us on most non-racial issues) is retarded, unless you're not actually pro-white. Being a boomercon would be hating someone who is clearly pro-white just because he's left-leaning on economic issues and calling him a socialist/communist shill for it, not hating an anti-white for being anti-white.

I think working with people and movements that literally want to destroy our race (like Dugin, Mugabe, black supremacists in America, Muslim migrants in Europe, etc.) just to defeat a common enemy will usually just bite you in the back, and should only be done with a lot of caution and only if the benefits for us outweigh the costs. I'm curious to hear your perspective on this.

[–]YORAMRWWhite nationalist, eugenicist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

PS: I've watched the Glenn Beck video, and he talks of how Dugin supposedly wants to make whites in Western Europe become pro-white as if it's a bad thing, which is literally the opposite of my critique of Dugin. I don't believe in the schizo bullshit that Dugin and his supporters secretly control the dissident right, or whatever ridiculous strawman you've made up to demonize anyone who criticizes Dugin, but since he's anti-white it's only fair if I bring that up when I see Dugin being praised in our own circles.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

I don't believe in the schizo bullshit that Dugin and his supporters secretly control the dissident right

Good because that's retarded.

or whatever ridiculous strawman you've made up to demonize anyone who criticizes Dugin

You're not criticising Dugin. You're using his name in the same way that people say Hitler. You said yourself you don't know anything about him.

but since he's anti-white it's only fair if I bring that up when I see Dugin being praised in our own circles.

You literally randomly brought him up lol. That's my issue, people randomly saying nonsensical bullshit that is only designed to cause stupid infighting and shit instead of focusing on people with power. Even if Dugin was this rabid anti-white what would it matter? You don't bring up the endless list of people with power over you who actually are anti-white but you bring up this random fucking academic in Russia who has literally no influence over anything or anyone. Do you realise how absurd it is? That's what my problem with it is, even if what you say about him is true (it's not) it would still be beyond irrelevant and stupid to go on and on about.

Imagine for a second you're in a war and you're planning out your attacks with some general or whatever and some guy starts randomly talking about how it's important we go out and kill some random guy who used to be a teacher in a university (but he got kicked out because his ideas were unpopular even in his own country) that is thousands of miles away from the battlefield and has absolutely no connection with the people you're at war with. That's what you're doing when you bring up Dugin.

[–]YORAMRWWhite nationalist, eugenicist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

You're not criticising Dugin. You're using his name in the same way that people say Hitler. You said yourself you don't know anything about him.

I don't much about Dugin, but I know he's anti-white. That's enough for me to know about him. (If you can disprove that he's anti-white to me, I'm eager to listen, because you're so well-read about Dugin compared to me). By your logic, you shouldn't be allowed to call out any other political figure for being anti-white when they're brought up by someone in our own circles either, unless you've wasted your time doing extensive research into his life history and his other polical views.

You literally randomly brought him up lol.

I didn't randomly bring him up, and I've never done so, stop gaslighting me. I've seen other people in our own circles bring him up in a positive light on multiple occasions, and the few times I've brought him up it was always in response to such instances, to make them aware of the anti-white views Dugin holds. In this case, OP not only self-identifies as a nazbol just like Dugin, he also literally espouses the same type of views as Dugin regarding Zimbabwe, so not random at all.

Imagine for a second you're in a war and you're planning out your attacks with some general or whatever and some guy starts randomly talking about how it's important we go out and kill some random guy who used to be a teacher in a university (but he got kicked out because his ideas were unpopular even in his own country) that is thousands of miles away from the battlefield and has absolutely no connection with the people you're at war with. That's what you're doing when you bring up Dugin.

This is just such a disingenuous analogy. This is an online discussion forum, not a battlefield where we're physically fighting our enemies and life depends on it. Briefly pointing out someone is anti-white in repsonse to seeing him praised by people on our side to make them aware that they're praising an anti-white, on an online discussion forum, is in no way similar to demanding your fellow soldiers on the battlefield stop fighting the enemy in front of them and physically go after some random anti-white who lives thousands of miles away.