Immigrants of today are NOT like our ancestors

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[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

Nothing you said here is even close to being relevant to the 2 points being discussed. 1) That whites COMMITTED a genocide, and 2) that (black) slaves did ALL the labour to build America.

Both of these claims are ridiculous, that is what I responded to. This schizophrenic phantom you're having a fight with here has nothing to do with me, I'd suggest taking your meds.

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Oh my, my meds? I haven't taken them in years.

1) whites were used (like hunting dogs) to commit the genocide. This is the truth. We can argue about who came up with the idea, but my white ancestors were the footsoldiers. I was taught to be proud of this fact by my schools and church. 2) wage slaves built it, black slaves worked it for a while.

Grasp away, you'll find only straws.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

whites were used (like hunting dogs) to commit the genocide. This is the truth.

This isn't even the libtard academia position lol, even they say that most of the Amerindians dying was because of diseases Europeans brought and shit. You're like the only person in the world who contends that it was a matter of policy that whites were sent out in deathsquads to kill them, it's absurd.

But if this is true as you say prove it, I don't particularly care if it happened either way. I'm just led to believe it didn't happen so far, feel free to show us evidence of this intentional genocide.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

He has no evidence. Notice how he is not mentioning that half the europeans coming to the US were brought over as slaves. It doesn't fit his antiwhite narrative, I assume

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I have no links, and that is all. I will not offer any links to you. You can do your own due diligence on this subject if you'd like.

I made it clear that the refugees leaving Europe were wage-slaves, and that they were the footsoldiers. My white forefathers were used like hunting dogs. You seem to ignore half of what I say. You'll feel better pretending that I am a POC libtard, not a white traditionalist.

I respond to your comments, you make jokes and ignore my words. You can do better.

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I never said: it was a matter of policy that whites were sent out in deathsquads to kill them.

You are a waste of time. You should really read a lot of books, not internet pages. There is plenty of evidence on the wars against the natives. I'm not sad, nor upset. You are simply a waste of time. If you had anything of worth to say about the building of America, it would be noted by me and accepted. Sadly, most people buy into Jewish propaganda about the tribes, such as the libtards and you fine gentlemen here on debatealtright.

Sure, a lot of them died from sickness. A lot of people were dying from sicknesses back then. I'm not talking about how their populations were further decimated, I'm talking about the concerted action taken by the cult to cull those peoples. They had a reason for doing so, and it wasn't just because they lived on some fine real estate (this is what the right tries to teach), nor because they were spiritually superior (this is what the left tries to teach). I mean, seriously, my forefathers fought in those wars, against Comanches in Texas. These wars are well-documented.

And white people were the footsoldiers, not blacks, not jews, whites who had been forced out of Europe.

I don't hold anyones hands, let alone someone with an ego like yours. You know how to order books from the library, how to buy them from the net. Do your due diligence on this subject, and wisen up. Very few people ever do when it comes to the natives of america. Your views on them are as cartoonish as the libtards you chastise.

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    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    I don't advocate for full reparations for the Natives, they lost. That's like trying to get full reparations for every scattered Scottish clan. It is impossible in this current environment. I don't think societies are weak just because they get destroyed, like the confederations of clans that I am descended from who lost their long long long wars. It wasn't internal weakness that destroyed them, it was external manipulation. Their internal weaknesses were a part of the problem, but not the source. I don't think like a cabbalist, glad to say. Too many on this website and others think like cabbalists and don't even seem to realize.

    Societies that are worthwhile have the weight of a world-wide cult brought down on them, nothing can stand against that unless they are a society superhumans. Sadly, we have had very few superhumans, and no societies of them. So, I support the people from those groups, and the philosophies from those groups. I don't see them as failures, I see them as survivors in spite of a terrible evil. I respect certain Native tribes for their ethno-nationalist actions.

    Dragonerne made a joke about my simple questions, like a 4chan-level copypasta joke. I don't play around with that shit. They should've answered my questions rather than respond with "libtard" and such. Then he goes on to say I'm anti-white? Ha! Never will I look at him the same, even though I find him to be insightful at times.

    [–]MarkimusNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

    You are again making shit up that I didn't say. I've never once took a positive view of the original ruling founders of America, I'm very much in agreeance with the James Lafond, and TRS (FTN/Borzoi) etc kind of viewpoints that America was founded by scumbags who have always been elitist and not at all pro-white.

    You should stick to the topic at hand rather than just arguing with things you're imagining. Why don't you tell us which books specifically detail the intentional genocide of Amerindians assuming they exist? Why would you waste your time making claims on the internet then when people ask you for the source of your claims you simply refuse and throw these tantrums? This makes no sense at all.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

    I spend a lot of time acting the way I act. On every forum, people have PM'd me or I them, in a kind manner, for discussion and the sort. I often supply it to them. That is why I am here. Sometimes, I butt heads with shills like socks and pale-skinned programmers lacking in vitamin D, and sometimes, I upset the alt-right, who I am supposedly a member of according to every liberal I've met.

    If you and u/Dragonerne weren't making jokes, you'd have gotten a different response from me. You get nothing but my big toe now.

    If you'd like, try to ban me from this sub. I don't play games, debating with people is a social game. I'm not here for that. I'm here for lurkers and for remarkable individuals I won't find elsewhere, and to make comments as I please.

    This is a tantrum: I AM UPSET AND YOU SUCK, FUCK YOU. YOU ARE REPORTED TO THE INFORMATION BUREAU FOR HURTING MY FEELINGS!

    I didn't do that. I am talking to you, that is all.

    [–]MarkimusNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

    ok man but refusing to ever back up any claim you make with any kind of evidence isn't very persuasive👍👍

    good luck finding 'remarkable individuals' by never saying anything of substance and having a mental breakdown when anyone asks you to bring some substance. lmao. faggot.

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

    Man, you really got me. I'm an anti-white faggot. You really did me in. /s

    I will back up my claims if people are worthwhile. You and Dragonerne are not, this is clear based on the highschool-level chad-jokes you make. I'm not here to change your minds, should I repeat that? I'm not here to be persuasive.

    I have found plenty of remarkable individuals, we don't always agree, I'm sure some of them agree with you and disagree with me on this issue. The difference between you and them is that they are remarkable for being morally advanced. They don't fall apart and tell people to "take their meds" or call others faggots.

    You dug your own grave here, buddy.

    [–]DragonerneJesus is white 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    We don't entertain liberal bad faith acting, so when you do the classic motte and bailey, don't expect us to treat you with grace and respect. Good faith debate requires good faith actors, something that you clearly aren't, apparently.

    Also by showing yourself to be defending the antiwhite narrative, on what ground do you feel entitled to any kind of respect from us? I am genuinely curious; if I start out by insulting you and your family, would you treat me with kindness in return? Think about how you treat others and how you want yourself to be treated. If you go around spreading and defending antiwhite lies, half truths, then don't be surprised when you're treated in kind.
    Especially when doing so without any evidence; just baseless lies about whites committing genocide and making slaves do all the work.

    Act in good faith, don't be antiwhite, then maybe others will also act in good faith towards you. Its called the golden rule

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    Ha! I asked you questions, you responded with a joke. You should follow the golden rule, if you think it will help.

    [–]MarkimusNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    you have the mistaken idea that you have clout and people give a shit about these declarations

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Oh, on saidit? No, not at all. Don't try this game with me, it never works. I know who I am, you only know u/Earendil.