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[–]Daddiescummies 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (35 children)

Your ancestors were too magnanimous to completely destroy a hostile non white group, therefore you now have to give up your countries and pay tribute to these groups forever."

Exactly. Your racist colonizer ancestors couldn't survive without enslavement and exploitation, and now modern whites have inherited the debts of their ancestors. And because people of color do all of the real work in the country, we hold all the real power.

White supremacists narratives are exactly that: narratives. It's storytelling from parasitic raiders who can't survive without exploitation.

BIPOC said "no more", and y'all reacted with rage, because your success is built on our exploitation. And without that, you lose your privilege.

America belongs to the Black and Indigenous. We're just taking back what's rightly ours.

[–]AidsVictim69 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (30 children)

Exactly. Your racist colonizer ancestors couldn't survive without enslavement and exploitation

Sure they could. Millions of Europeans who came to the US with nothing besides their family and culture created the wealthiest nation in the world almost entirely through their own labour in a wilderness with no infrastructure, development, and often surrounded by mostly hostile natives. The majority never needed or benefited from POC labour. The Southern slave system primarily benefited only the elite (plantation owners and to a lesser extent the coastal merchant class) and the capital derived thereof was mostly reinvested into the plantation system until it was destroyed in the civil war. The rest of black history is sharecropping and scab labour (along with Asian and later Latino immigrants) during the "Great" migration.

and now modern whites have inherited the debts of their ancestors.

I don't owe POC anything because I have the same skin color as a plantation owner from 170 years ago.

White supremacists narratives are exactly that: narratives. It's storytelling from parasitic raiders who can't survive without exploitation

Understanding the reality of historical labour isn't a narrative. The idea that a bunch of slaves concentrated on Southern plantations was necessary, needed, or improved in any significant the majority populations material situation is fantasy. At best a small trickle down profit benefitted a few urban centers via the mercantile class and the Southern families that owned one or two slaves directly benefitted from that labour. And after the accumulation of capital concentrated into that system was destroyed those labourers were nothing but scabs that suppressed Northern whites already developed industrial labour markets.

Any realistic look at the North American labour market is quite depressing for POC. In exchange for enriching a few elite whites, the rest of white society endured a racial plague.

BIPOC said "no more", and y'all reacted with rage, because your success is built on our exploitation. And without that, you lose your privilege. America belongs to the Black and Indigenous. We're just taking back what's rightly ours.

Even if you could, you will only create an uglier, stupider, and more violent society to live in and North America will tumble into the dustbin of history as so much racial garbage.

[–]Daddiescummies 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (29 children)

Sure they could. Millions of Europeans who came to the US with nothing besides their family and culture created the wealthiest nation in the world

By exploiting Indigenous people and Black people.

The rest of black history is sharecropping

Which is just a modification of the plantation system that enriched white people at Black and Indigenous people's expenses. Also, that's not the "rest" of Black history. And capitalize Black, we're talking about a culture, not a color.

The idea that a bunch of slaves concentrated on Southern plantations was necessary, needed, or improved in any significant the majority populations material situation is fantasy.

You're right, the South literally fought a war to preserve their right to keep slaves, which means slave labor was TOTALLY unnecessary. It was just so important they were willing to literally murder for it.

Any realistic look at the North American labour market is quite depressing for POC. In exchange for enriching a few elite whites, the rest of white society endured a racial plague

At yet white people saw this as better than the alternative, liberation for Black people.

Even if you could, you will only create an uglier, stupider, and more violent society to live in and North America will tumble into the dustbin of history as so much racial garbage.

As long as we don't literally commit genocide against indigenous people and enslave Black people, it would be impossible to create a WORSE America.

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (25 children)

Sure they could. Millions of Europeans who came to the US with nothing besides their family and culture created the wealthiest nation in the world

By exploiting Indigenous people and Black people.

You can call it exploitation, but the grand majority of immigrants that came over here, no matter their origin, came to look for a better life. Other than those with wealth and power, it's reasonable to assume that those immigrants weren't exactly told that they were going to be fucking over other people. They saw it as a way out of their former lives and did as people trying to survive do, and likely without rationalization. Most of those people were uneducated as fuck, and you're trying to apply a system of reasoning towards a state of mind that dismisses it.

You're right, the South literally fought a war to preserve their right to keep slaves, which means slave labor was TOTALLY unnecessary. It was just so important they were willing to literally murder for it.

What do the people do when they're convinced by their leaders that something is worth fighting for, despite the masses likely not seeing a single benefit? They fight. They fight out of perceived duty to the land or they're conscripted because that's where they live, and that's who they're led by, and they're dragged into the petty power play of rich assholes that don't want to pay for a damn thing. They were the disgustingly rich CEOs of massive companies of their time and did everything to convince the regular wagecucks that free labor and treating people like workhorses was an amazing idea that was great for the whole land, that's the best way that I can think of a linear example.

[–]Daddiescummies 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (24 children)

What do the people do when they're convinced by their leaders that something is worth fighting for

They get replaced by people capable of independent thought. If your inferior white ancestors were too stupid to see how bad and illogical racism was, they and their children need to be replaced.

Unlike you, I'm not a stupid sheeple.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (16 children)

They were replaced. By nature of death and birth, everyone was. Then slowly it became the status quo to educate everyone and provide the tools that go hand in hand with information that allows for independent thought in more applicable ways.

If you're not sheeple, you would understand that men, in whatever civilization or whatever culture aside from pacifistic ones, usually seek out more space and places to expand their civilizations towards. It's conquest, and can even happen from group to group within areas with zero white people. Is it right? I mean, it's pretty shitty for those being exploited, killed or having their lives/culture destroyed in the process. Ask your fellow menfolk that have a say-so to stop being hellbent on power, land and wealth. I'm sure they'll totally listen.

[–]Daddiescummies 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

Then slowly it became the status quo

This is the problem I have. I'm done waiting for white people to decide when progress happens. We're driving the car now.

You had your chance, and you squandered it. Now it's our America.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

We're driving the car now.

Who's 'we'?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Not him. That's probably just some self deprecating reddit honky that masturbates to cuck porn.

[–]Airbus320 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

Los Angeles trans protests looked so weird

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

So, conquest then?

Thanks for proving my point.

[–]Daddiescummies 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Did I imply otherwise? Black people are better than you, and we're taking over the country. Your compliance, while appreciated, is not required. We will be deconstructing the systems you would use for retaliation, then focus on redistributing wealth and power through reparations.

Say bye to white privilege.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Ah. The laws of conquest dictate that no matter who gets into power will eventually have it seized from them by a more powerful source. You can carry on with the supremecist attitude, everyone can pretend to be more awesome than everyone else. You can have your golden banana sticker for being a dickhead to someone you don't know on the internet. High five. I'm comforted by the fact that humans are bound to extinguish their existence one way or another.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Now it's our America.

Nah

[–]Daddiescummies 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You threatened white boy?

You scared?

Good.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yh oh

[–]DisastrousDepth14Race comes first 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

"Inferior" who enslaved your people, according to your logic. So what does that make your people? Inferior of the inferior? There is literally nothing your race has contributed to mankind and you speak of our contribution?

[–]Daddiescummies 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

"Inferior" who enslaved your people, according to your logic.

Yes, because your people couldn't survive without slaves, and we still freed ourselves from slavery.

So what does that make your people? Inferior of the inferior?

Well, we went from enslavement to freedom, so objectively superior to you.

There is literally nothing your race has contributed

Seasoning.

[–]DisastrousDepth14Race comes first 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Freedom provided by our people. Without the white northerners who fought for your ugly ass, you'd still be a slave to this day. You are so superior that even to this day, your people are starving in Africa and to this day you're below us in every field.

Seasoning? Wow what would we do without that? 90% of every modern invention you see and use came from us. Hell, without our help, Africa would be filled with diseases and you'd die without medicines we created. Your phone and the internet through which you're writing these posts wouldn't exist without us. Nevermind the English language you're using right now.

[–]Daddiescummies 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Freedom provided by our people

We wouldn't need freedom IF YOU DIDN'T ENSLAVE US IN THE FIRST PLACE.

[–]LetssavethefirsworldReturn to Jesus 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Whites didn't enslave. Your own people enslaved each other

[–]AidsVictim69 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

By exploiting Indigenous people and Black people.

You're either over invested in your identity as a victim or you're too stupid to understand basic relations between demographics and economics, so whatever. From either a classical (capitalist) or Marxist analysis of what you're (and most racial historical revisionists) claiming makes no sense.

Which is just a modification of the plantation system that enriched white people at Black and Indigenous people's expenses. Also, that's not the "rest" of Black history. And capitalize Black, we're talking about a culture, not a color.

Seems your account is just a gimmick.

You're right, the South literally fought a war to preserve their right to keep slaves, which means slave labor was TOTALLY unnecessary. It was just so important they were willing to literally murder for it.

They fought because the elite Southern whites created a false consciousness and convinced them their interests were the same because they were both white, and in some cases that may have been partially true (i.e. Southern families that owned a few slaves). The best thing Southern whites could have done is seized the capital of the plantation owners and deported or sold Southern blacks to the Caribbean, South America, or Africa.

At yet white people saw this as better than the alternative, liberation for Black people.

The majority of white people never held slaves, benefitted from their exploitation, or were particularly interested in them beyond fear of what they might do as free members of society (which was at least partially realized).

As long as we don't literally commit genocide against indigenous people and enslave Black people, it would be impossible to create a WORSE America.

Lots of places in South America and Africa are worse than America in any multitude of ways. Lower IQs, poorer, more violent, more bloody history, etc. American blacks are just insanely narcissistic and stupid to the point of parody.

[–]Daddiescummies 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

You're either over invested in your identity as a victim

I'm not a victim. I represent a genetic and cultural legacy that survived enslavement, genocide, exploitation, and marginalization, and now I am taking what is rightfully mine.

Seems your account is just a gimmick.

Unlike whites, Black people actually have a culture. Learn how to season your food and accomplish anything without genocide and enslavement.

The best thing Southern whites could have done is seized the capital of the plantation owners and deported or sold Southern blacks to the Caribbean, South America, or Africa.

But they didn't, because they bought into the idea of White supremacy, and now their ancestors are paying their debts.

The majority of white people never held slaves, benefitted from their exploitation

Slave labor reduces the price of goods and increases production. That means whites had access to jobs and resources generated by the productivity of enslaved Black people. Even families that didn't own slaves benefited from the economic productivity.

Lots of places in South America and Africa are worse than America in any multitude of ways.

You mean after Europeans showed up to pillage, spread diseases, rape indigenous people, enslave communities, and commit genocide?

Lower IQs

You mean Black and Indigenous people have a lower score on a metric created by White people that has no real application to actual life? Shocking.

poorer

Because whites enslaved us and committed genocide while pillaging our lands.

more violent

A product of enslavement, genocide, and whites pillaging our lands, creating instability.

more bloody history

Because White people were committing genocide.

American blacks are just insanely narcissistic and stupid to the point of parody.

Wow, a white person projecting. Yawn.

[–]AidsVictim69 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm not a victim. I represent a genetic and cultural legacy that survived enslavement, genocide, exploitation, and marginalization, and now I am taking what is rightfully mine.

Your entire self description is just listing the ways you were victimized lol.

Unlike whites, Black people actually have a culture. Learn how to season your food and accomplish anything without genocide and enslavement.

Has there ever been a more degenerate, base, and ephemeral culture than modern black American culture? This is what you're proud of? But I guess if you compare it to some white strawman it seems significant - like the idea that whites don't season their food lmao.

But they didn't, because they bought into the idea of White supremacy, and now their ancestors are paying their debts.

*Descendants.

Slave labor reduces the price of goods and increases production. That means whites had access to jobs and resources generated by the productivity of enslaved Black people. Even families that didn't own slaves benefited from the economic productivity.

You're naively applying generalized labour theory to specialized systems. The vast majority of slave labour was just cash crops. The profits of this exploitation were almost entirely returned to the landowners and re invested into the slave system which was a highly capital intensive system. This neither lowered the price of goods or usefully increased production in any useful way for the majority of whites. Some Southern whites benefitted either because they owned a "family" slave or they profited off trade with Europe for the cash crops. Some civic/infrastructure work was carried out by slaves in limited areas of the South. But in reality the area most enmeshed with slavery was also notably poorer and was never enriched materially any significant way outside the elite Southern aristocracy. The majority of the white population never interacted or materially benefitted from slavery. Whites were the majority of the workers in every class outside some areas of the South, they performed the labour that industrialized the country. Black labour was generally limited to sharecropping in the South (which was neither very profitable compared to the slavery system or beneficial to Southern whites in general) or migrating to the North as scab labour in areas already developed and industrialized by white workers.

If slavery never developed in the US the economic and historical trajectory would have been largely the same because most workers in America have always been white. POC labor was never necessary and if anything their dysfunctional socities have probably been a drain on the development of the country overall.

You mean after Europeans showed up to pillage, spread diseases, rape indigenous people, enslave communities, and commit genocide?

I suppose. Most of those things were happening before Europeans showed up as well. Pre colonial American history is full of imperialism, violence, genocides, and plagues.

You mean Black and Indigenous people have a lower score on a metric created by White people that has no real application to actual life? Shocking.

IQ is the best predictor of overall life success for the average person in almost every category, whether they are white or not, whether they live in the West or not. But if you think it doesn't matter you can go live in societies where people have low IQ. Please do.

[–]SamiAlHayyidGrand Mufti Imam Sheikh Professor Al Hadji Dr. Sami al-Hayyid 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

This line of reasoning is hilarious. Are you so thick-headed as not to realize that having your black ancestors (nope, you aren't deserving of having the capital B you so desperately want to force others into using) chucked onto a slave ship does not make you the indigenous people of America?

Why would the Amerindians want you in America anymore than any other group? Get off indigenous land and bugger off back to Africa! Invader!

Oh, but wait, you don't want to go back to Africa because you're a literal queer. You'd probably be stoned to death in a well-deserved case of jungle justice. Yep, even blacks don't want anything to do with you, and your ancestors know that it was worth getting on that slave ship just so that the motherland could have one less degenerate contaminating it today. What are your pronouns, by the way? Xe/Xir? Angry, black and queer? Also, stop being transphobic and participating in hate groups like LGBdroptheT! Bigot!

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Exactly. Your racist colonizer ancestors couldn't survive without enslavement and exploitation, and now modern whites have inherited the debts of their ancestors. And because people of color do all of the real work in the country, we hold all the real power.

Why don't you return to your homeland if White people are so reliant on your labor? Also, if you aren't Jewish you don't have any power in western countries. You are nothing a mere obstacle and political cudgel for globalist Jewish elites. I am sorry if that makes you feel bad but that is the truth.

White supremacists narratives are exactly that: narratives. It's storytelling from parasitic raiders who can't survive without exploitation.

The actual story is bad farm equipment purchased by a small minority of unscrupulous elites was made obsolete by technology. We are not obligated to house bad, obsolete farm equipment that is no longer of use. We are advocating your return to your natural habitat. We will still pay you for mining resources and national geographic documentaries. That is the opposite of continuing exploitation because you will be at home with your own kind.

America belongs to the Black and Indigenous. We're just taking back what's rightly ours.

It can't really be yours if you aren't the sovereign people over the land. You may be empowered by Jews, but you aren't the sovereign people.

[–]Daddiescummies 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It can't really be yours if you aren't the sovereign people over the land

I hope that though keeps you warm when we take what is rightfully ours