Good article by Robin Riley. Beer makes you effeminate.

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[–]AidsVictim69 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

It's really the hops and weight gain from binge drinking it that's dropping T

I'm skeptical hops really have that much of an effect on hormone balance. Drinking a few hoppy beers and eating something with soy in it a few times a week isn't going to affect an otherwise healthy man much if at all. It's mostly when beer becomes a staple of someones diet and a consumer "identity" (i.e. all the dudes who are homebrewing as their main hobby). Principally it's the weight gain, sedentary lifestyle, and generally bad diet (that introduces quite a few xenohormones) that produces "soy" men.

I think that beer is really important for European cultural bonding though. It's a huge part of our past and present and has been a wonderful way to get people together. If you socialize with people while drinking it might still be a net positive as a lack of social connection can also be bad for health (and test).

Communal meal/drinking bonding is very important for social cohesion.

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(i.e. all the dudes who are homebrewing as their main hobby

I love making booze, I think everyone should at least have some wine going on. It does have several survival uses like baking, keeping a yeast strand going for bread and more booze, and disinfecting (with distillation), and of course a ... morale boost.

I mean, come on, if you meet a lady in the Wasteland, where I assume the dating pool is going to be dismal, a little wine can help seal the deal. And you may need some liquid courage considering personal hygiene will be an issue. She might smell like the monkey enclosure at the zoo, but it has probably been a while, and all the even moderately pretty girls became sex slaves pretty quickly after civilization collapsed.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I'm skeptical

As was I. For several reasons. Hoppy beer and soy is normalized so it's hard to go against the grain of what's common place in your environment. Second, if the science is right about all these xenoestrogen effects then a LARGE group of professionals are aware of what they are doing to the hormone balances of millions of people and they are standing by while human sexual dimorphism collapses (and probably getting well paid to stand by and watch). Who in their right mind would just stand by while men become women and women become men? What type of insane group has this anti family anti male anti patriarchy pro androgeny belief system?

I'm skeptical hops really have that much of an effect on hormone balance. Drinking a few hoppy beers and eating something with soy in it a few times a week isn't going to affect an otherwise healthy man much if at all

Nobody is making this argument though. The argument is the cumulative effect of xenoestrogens in the modern environment. Lots of food stuffs, cooking implements, industrial aerosols, packaging, fragrances, air quality, off-gassing buildings/products, cleaning products, clothing, and even the water supply has xenoestrogens. It accumulates. To fight it you need to analyze all your exposure points and try to bring them down the best you can. Hoppy beers is an exposure point.

Let's look at it from a different angle. We know that pine tinctures increase test as do some plant extracts like tongkat ali, nigerian fadogia agrestis, or ashwagandha root. Of course we know that pharmaceutical test increases test. Let's say pro military pro 'sportsball' conservatives owned 90 of large companies and they all mysteriously were finding excuses to put all those supplements in all types of products. Lets say they even blocked regulatory efforts that would call testosterone in the food and water supply dangerous. Lets say every man when he hit puberty was put on a daily testosterone pill (to make sure he's productive at work and has lots of little christian soldiers) and the urine he excreted measurably increased the test in the water supply.

If you were a person that was against men getting more aggressive and muscular you'd probably look at all those individual facts and put it together that the conservatives want to make men more masculine and that they have a bias to a more masculine society. If you were a person against christian soldiers and a healthy military you'd probably oppose that program right?

All I ask is for people looking into the xenoestrogen stuff is to also take into account that there's a VERY powerful political group that has vested ideological, political and even religious interest in making men in the western world less masculine, less virile, less aggressive and less motivated. The dots start to connect after that.

And I haven't even gotten into the LGBT push to give young people estrogen or the use of estrogen as a forced therapy or 'correction.'

https://dailystormer.su/state-enforced-16-year-old-in-government-behavior-facility-injected-with-estrogen/

There was even a twitter thread a few weeks ago where leftists were bragging that they were putting ground up hormone therapy pills into anti vax republican drinks if they had the chance in public. It was insane.

Hormones are no Joke. Fuck with a person's hormones and they literally become a different human.

https://i.postimg.cc/5yZKmfwG/1624725765113.jpg

[–]AidsVictim69 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The argument is the cumulative effect of xenoestrogens in the modern environment. Lots of food stuffs, cooking implements, industrial aerosols, packaging, fragrances, air quality, off-gassing buildings/products, cleaning products, clothing, and even the water supply has xenoestrogens. It accumulates. To fight it you need to analyze all your exposure points and try to bring them down the best you can. Hoppy beers is an exposure point.

I agree with everything you're saying. I just don't think soy and hops in and of themselves are anywhere near as hormone disruptive as most plastic derived xenohormones/hormone disruptors and the focus on them is silly compared to the overall environmental problem. Technically yes they are an exposure point but it really just confuses the public since they end up thinking they can avoid the problem by switching their diet up a bit (in reality almost no one eats enough soy for it to matter anyway and the extra calories from beer are probably much more dangerous than the hops) rather than realizing it's an overall environmental problem.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I just don't think soy and hops in and of themselves are anywhere near as hormone disruptive as most plastic derived xenohormones/hormone disruptors

I can agree with you here. I think we are getting most of the exposure from water and heating/serving food in plastics.

and the focus on them is silly compared to the overall environmental problem.

Maybe but there's a huge group of white people that are going hardcore on these hipster beers (I know, I was one of them) and if you saw the amount of hops going into these drinks (and how frequently they are being consumed) you'd be blown away.

it really just confuses the public since they end up thinking they can avoid the problem by switching their diet up a bit

That's a good point. The public needs to be informed that there are more important areas to focus on if they want to reduce xenoestrogens. There are other good reasons to reduce beer consumption though so I still think it's a good product to attack. In general it's important to understand that a huge chunk of the alt right is also a 'self improvement' styled movement so beer, porn and sportsball all get attacked by our movement because they are all assaults on white male psychology and physiology.

rather than realizing it's an overall environmental problem.

I get your point and I agree. Thanks for clarifying.