If you were POTUS or leader of some other Western country, what would you do to combat the obesity epidemic?

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[–]peaceful✞ 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

I think stinking up a bus is more offensive to a person than obesity costs. There is a lot of money that can be allocated for health care if we want freedom to eat. My view is only subjective, the cost is worth the freedom.

But by your reasoning guns should be illegal since they will always cause mass shootings, murders and associated costs. Where do you draw the line in limiting freedoms? The answer is contingent on subjectivity.

[–]peaceful✞ 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I'm not libertarian and you don't need to troll. The question proposed is what would you do if you were POTUS, in other words if we had an alt-right government. Ending multiracialism would be far more important than your health tyranny.

[–]WorldSharp[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The question proposed is what would you do if you were POTUS, in other words if we had an alt-right government.

Not necessarily. Being cryptofash is a viable tactic to pass an agenda.

I plan on entering politics, and believe it or not, it's probably going to be as a Democrat.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I know what the question proposed is and I'm giving my opinion on it. Reducing military expenditure and taking preventive action as a state to stop people from destroying their health by becoming obese are not mutually exclusive ideas. You can do both. Also I'm not just going to take say 300 billion dollars out of the military budget and just use that to treat people who have by their own decisions destroyed their health.

Also only an insane libertarian thinks preventative intervention in someone's life to stop them from bad behaviour that hurts themselves and more importantly their society is impinging upon their 'freedom'. You may not call yourself a libertarian but that's an idea that is fundamentally libertarian in its nature where personal liberty comes first and everything else be damned.

I wholeheartedly reject that kind of lunacy and it's the reason why libertarians are so irrelevant and fringe.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

But by your reasoning guns should be illegal since they will always cause mass shootings, murders and associated costs. Where do you draw the line in limiting freedoms? The answer is contingent on subjectivity.

Society needs guns to ward off predators. Why do you need a Big Mac & Pepsi everyday? Start drinking water and eat a salad instead.

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    [–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    Most fat people are farmers who toil from sunrise to sunset and have time to engorge themselves on their labor? Please...

    By the way, I've never seen this much defense for sugary foods and other useless junk. Are you being paid by McDonalds so no one can be weeded from their toxic sludge they serve everyone? Eating an apple isn't actually meant to give you cancer or raise your risk of heart disease.

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      [–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      You're being dense. How about actually looking up the nutritional information found in fast food vs organic?

      Just in terms of calories and sugar content, a McFlurry or Large Pepsi will always be more dangerous than a glass of water.

      [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      You seem to be focusing on something that we aren't talking about.

      Your obfuscation is amateur.

      [–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      If someone wants to get fat from farming, good for them I guess.

      But the effort in doing so is much harder, than grabbing a bag of chips from the store and performing no real exercise/activity for the rest of the day.

      Even the "fat" farmers you describe are probably still in shape since the entire business requires a level of movement or it fails.

      [–]peaceful✞ 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      You have far more dangerous predators, and far more numerous, because of guns.

      [–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Naw, guns are safe when they're in the right hands.

      Remove "inner city violence" and America's homicide rate would mirror that of Europe.

      But we can absolutely live without Mcdonalds and junk food, whereas guns at least serve some kind of purpose.

      These companies are only selling this stuff because they suckered enough people into believing it's real food when it's just recycled trash. It's just like Tobacco companies of the past who convinced the public cigarettes were harmless. Except when it gave everyone lung cancer, they started going out of business. Fast food is just your ticket to getting a heart attack or diabetes with no other benefits.

      [–]MarkimusNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Just lose weight, stop with the cope

      [–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      I think stinking up a bus is more offensive to a person than obesity costs.

      Sounds like you've never had to pay taxes.

      But by your reasoning guns should be illegal since they will always cause mass shootings, murders and associated costs.

      No by my reasoning much like in Switzerland I'd make gun ownership for Whites mandatory but also fund shooting ranges and other methods that help people use guns in an efficient manner. As usual though every single time you talk with a libertarian you're only one or two sentences away from terrible comparison or loony hypothetical usually involving guns.

      Where do you draw the line in limiting freedoms?

      I draw the line as far away from wherever libertarians say it is and start from there. It's actually a pretty good technique. With foreign policy I just go to Max Boot or Bill Kristol's twitter and figure out the right thing to do by doing the opposite of what they say and it's the same with libertarians like you. Always do the opposite.