A Call for New Culture Creators

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    [–]DragonerneJesus is white 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Art is so left wing that the left has to outlaw and ban right wing expressions of art, lest it infects the minds of the populations

    [–]DragonerneJesus is white 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Art is fundamentally left wing:
    Right wingers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=su11BN5JhaQ

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o17Xnfgy_M (Wake Up Dane!)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfLL3fftC0Q
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQaq81kE_Eg
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHoOt0RtDys ("I can't believe it, he iddnt even cry to Titanic" - "Do men even have any feelings?" - "A united Denmark")
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtX8-sWEy90 (SAS: What is in truth danish? Absolutely nothing. - Right wingers, oh really?)

    We had 2 really big right wing channels that made art/culture and both got taken down by youtube.

    [–]MarkimusNational Socialist 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

    Let's just do since the French revolution since that is when Left-Right became a thing, all culture before that was 'right wing' anyway. I'm only going to list people who you could consider to be 'ourguys' too, if you include more milquetoast conservatives and shit it's a wrap. I'm just picking out guys who were racialists, anti-semitic, straight up fascists/nazis or very close philosophically like a few reactionaries.

    Philosophy

    • Hegel, Heidegger, Spengler, Nietzsche, Schopenhauer, Evola, Guenon, Chesterton, Gentile, Yockey

    Painting

    • Dali, Lewis

    Poetry

    • Pound, D'Annunzio, Marinetti, Yeats, Campbell, Eliot, Fairburn, Potocki

    Literature

    • Tolkien, Martin, Lovecraft, Lawrence, Hamsun, Williamson, Mishima, Stephensen, Abbey

    Architecture

    • Speer, Johnson (ok his architecture sucks but he was pretty much THE architect of America in the 20th century, wrote for Father Coughlin, and was a Nazi)

    Music

    • Wagner (do you think any of the great classical composers from the 18th-20th centuries were libtards? Chopin, Beethoven, Tchaikovsky, Schubert etc? Doubtful, but afaik none of them were explicitly folkish socialist or anti-semitic like Wagner so I only included him)

    You could pad this out with a bunch of conservatives, milder reactionaries, and anyone who was religious but you get the point. Pretty much everyone who made anything that is actually beautiful has been 'right wing'. Can you even think of a single beautiful thing you've seen that follows leftist/liberal principles? They are inherently against beauty which is why it's all about abstraction, interpretation, and individual expression lol.

    [–]YJaewedwqewqClerical Fascist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Mozart immediately started shitting on Voltaire the second he died, which was quite funny.

    It's also of note that even by your rather strict definition (which excludes mroe foundational thinkers and people who had political or philosophical leanings that may be friendly to ours but not quite to the point of /ourguy/-ness) you've already come up with quite a large list, which is indicative of how natural and common sense things like "anti-semitism", race realism/ethnonationalism, etc. really are.

    It's also of note that many NatCons and other such people, although not expressly ethnically nationalist per se that many people follow while simultaneously disavowing us (i.e. the "alt-right", Third Position, etc.) eiether did or would support us and our allies over anything else in the modern age if they had to. People such as Wilhelm or Bismarck definitely were no fans of socialism (and Wilhelm had quite a distate for Hitler and the NSDAP) but to suggest they would be milquetoast NeoCons if they were around today (or some somewhat more extreme variation thereof) as some of their modern proponents and followers today seem to implicitly claim is outright false and looking at any relevant quotations from politicians or figures of the pre-1920s in relation to the "protected groups" modern society coddles endlessly such as jews or blacks disproves such a notion.

    [–]SamiAlHayyidGrand Mufti Imam Sheikh Professor Al Hadji Dr. Sami al-Hayyid 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    I think it's more that for every thinker of the Right you have several degenerates like De Sade (incredibly degenerate even for our time) or Foucault, or people whose views enable degeneracy even if they were personally relatively normal, like Rousseau and Voltaire. Both of whom the last King claimed destroyed France through their inspiring of Robespierre and other revolutionaries. This then leads people to believe that Leftists are more intelligent or something along these lines. Of course this discounts that many of these "Left" thinkers are far-right today, like Proudhon. It also discounts how many Leftist thinkers are charlatans. Althusser, for example, wrote a book about Marx's Capital, but confessed late in life to only reading Marx's early works, and may have never read Kant or Aristotle, despite lecturing about them.

    People like Comte and Le Play also belong in the Philosophy section, since Sociology was part of Philosophy for many decades after its foundation. Sociology was incredibly conservative until the 1890s or so when liberals like Spencer and Ward came to be its leading figures. German sociology remained largely this way till the postwar period.

    [–]MarkimusNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Didn't see this when you posted it, good comment though. I'm just back here because I saw some midwit Smugtony Snarktano was spouting some ridiculous nonsense on twitter.

    He's right about Classical Liberals, but the reason they suck is because they're soulless leftoids. Reactionaries and Fascists are responsible for everything man made and beautiful that has ever existed, it's a really absurd assertion from this moron.

    People like Comte and Le Play also belong in the Philosophy section, since Sociology was part of Philosophy for many decades after its foundation. Sociology was incredibly conservative until the 1890s or so when liberals like Spencer and Ward came to be its leading figures. German sociology remained largely this way till the postwar period.

    Where can I learn about this stuff? I don't know anything about these figures.

    [–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    How are you going to leave off Dostoevsky.

    [–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    I think Leonardo da vinci and Michaelangelo would also fit in.

    [–]MarkimusNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I was just doing post-French revolution IE 19th century until now. Literally everyone before then would be considered right wing, I was also only including people who are racialist and/or anti-semitic or reactionaries that were very closely aligned with third position type views.

    [–]DragonerneJesus is white 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Art is fundamentally left wing

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7wv2yaHSHg (Right Wing Death Squads)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bW4ZwyYJYbQ (Battlecry of Freedom)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4xZUr0BEfE (Yuve Yuve Yu)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OKdbc0DYpM (Dixie)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1720spO4yQ (Rhodesia)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOBC0v_q4I8 (Deus Vult)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mobtxEJHhY4 (In the Name of God)

    [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Art is fundamentally left wing

    I strongly disagree with this. Unless of course you define left wing very loosely.

    [–]DragonerneJesus is white 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I don't think left wing art exists.

    Left wing art is like left wing humor: poop

    Edit: I changed my mind. Left wing art: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1yeBmSFkC4

    [–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Art is fundamentally left wing.

    Art is not remotely left wing. It has only in the modern era become associated with such people.

    [–]jykylsin2034 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Check out Hiraeth on YouTube, and Elessar and Xurious

    [–]WhiteZealotWhite Nationalist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    WhiteArtCollective.com