What is your opinion on this video describing how Trump is superior to Reagan?

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[–]nordmannenLegionnaire 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (25 children)

And when you weigh this with things like amnesty and FOPA do you believe he was better or worse for white America in the long run?

[–]fschmidt 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (24 children)

I don't care about race, so "white America" doesn't interest me. I do care a lot about culture, so I wouldn't want too many immigrants to dilute the culture. I don't have much opinion about Reagan's amnesty because these people were already living in America, it wasn't about importing more people. I am against Reagan's gun control.

The effect of politicians is overestimated. Politicians cannot control the most important issues like culture. In my view, America failed because its Christian leadership failed, and no politician can fix this problem.

[–]nordmannenLegionnaire 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (23 children)

I don't care about race, so "white America" doesn't interest me.

It should, even if you aren't white. The standard of living that you get here is because of the white racial core that this country still has, and as the core dwindles, the standard of living will begin to reflect the nonwhite demographics that live there. Alternatively, you could just move to Israel, they will staunchly protect you because of your lineage, regardless of your religious opinions.

Those people were already living in America but what did they do to California and their surrounding states? My point is that Reagan's policies effectively made it impossible for Republicans to win in states that he had substantially won, though that might be something we can say for Trump, give it 3 years.

What advice could you suggest for a Christian leadership that would retain our ethnic and racial majority without giving someone like you a one-way ticket to Israel? The kind of Christianity that supports Jews is also the kind that gets us into situations like today.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

Christianity does not support Jews.

[–]nordmannenLegionnaire 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

It does when it's been subverted by Jewish elements, which is the case for virtually all protestant sects in the US.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Its not Christianity, it is Judeo-Christianity.

Those christians are not following Jesus, so how can they claim to be Christians?

[–]nordmannenLegionnaire 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Fair enough, my point is that they're so subverted and rearranged that they don't represent Christianity anymore yet they carry our name.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Same as jews. Call themselves jews but aren't.

[–]nordmannenLegionnaire 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yeah, agreed. What Christianity to you adhere to, anyway? Most Danes are Lutheran, are you also?

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm not learned enough to claim a certain interpretation. Danes are Evang-Lutheran but they teach more Martin Luther King than Martin Luther.

[–]fschmidt 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

I think culture and religion are much more important than race. But there is obviously a correlation between the two. There is a high correlation between culture/religion and race. So selecting for one or the other will have similar results.

I am not religiously or culturally Jewish, so Israel isn't a great fit for me. I did look there.

What advice could you suggest for a Christian leadership that would retain our ethnic and racial majority without giving someone like you a one-way ticket to Israel? The kind of Christianity that supports Jews is also the kind that gets us into situations like today.

The Mennonite churches that I visited were not racist at all, yet they were more White than any other group that I have seen. What explains this paradox? The answer is that their religion is optimal for typical White character traits. I could probably never be fully Mennonite because I am too stubborn which is a Jewish genetic trait. So my advice is the follow the Mennonite example of requiring this kind of behavior in your religion.

[–]nordmannenLegionnaire 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Bruh, it's church. Churches naturally segregate, especially anabaptist heretics that are their own ethnoreligious group. Also, Mennonites are split down the middle politically from my understanding, and most would probably reject "whiteness" in exchange for their insular group which is majority nonwhite as most Mennonites are asian and african. This seems anecdotal, I can take you to plenty of "nonracist" "white" philosemitic cults and have you say the same thing, but this one experience you had with Mennonites has you sold on their bullshit. Sorry, a mass conversion to an anabaptist heresy is not going to make life better for American whites, nor is it realistic or practical. You should look into orthodoxy, there are a lot of disaffected Jews who find their way there for reasons I don't entirely understand.

[–]fschmidt 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

I was talking about conservative Mennonites. I don't care about liberal Mennonites.

Orthodox churches in America are too liberal. They are a lost cause.

American whites are too far gone to be saved. The only question is what individual whites with conservative values can do. One option would be to join a conservative Mennonite church. Another possible option would be to move to Russia and join an Orthodox church there. I can't vouch for this option since I haven't been to Russia, but from what I hear it sounds promising.

[–]nordmannenLegionnaire 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Are you trying to live up to stereotypes? No one on this sub (maybe a handful of people) are Russians, we aren't big on moving to foreign countries that will be less hostile to our views. And, moving to Russia is also impractical and doesn't solve our problems. We aren't really "run away and wait for bad things to go away" people, and thinking that we can just run away every time something goes awry is, dare I say, very semitic. And I can't let you ignore more than half of your favored congregation while labeling all of another one as "too liberal", that doesn't really make sense does it?

[–]fschmidt 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Most people on this sub hate me, and I hate them, so I am not very concerned about addressing their issues. Moving to Russia is a practical option for individual American whites who think that America is a lost cause. I have read about a number of American Orthodox Christians who have moved to Russia.

The Europeans who settled America were basically running away from religious persecution in Europe, so how can you say that running away is semitic?

Outside of the Mennonites, the only place in America that I have seen that seems to have any hope is north Idaho. But I wasn't there long enough to be sure.

Calling the Mennonites a congregation isn't really right. The Orthodox are unified in their religion through central authority. The Mennonites organize into groups that they call "conferences" which control their churches. So really each conference is its own congregation.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I've heard from a friend that I trust on matters of theology that Russian Orthodox is far less tainted. I don't think most Americans could handle the differences between the US and Russia as far as living there goes.

[–]nordmannenLegionnaire 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It's not about whether I can handle the difference, it's that I shouldn't have to. America is my country, I am at home here. I love Russia, but I will never be Russian and I will always be a foreigner there, regardless of the religious situation.

[–]nordmannenLegionnaire 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Well, I don't hate you, but as I said I didn't follow the drama between you and DAR. I think the fundamental difference between us is our background. You can say so plainly that white people are toast, and it doesn't really carry a lot of weight for you because you're not one of us. I can't accept that white people, as a group, are done and we can't think individually about how to save ourselves as a group.

Colonizing the US is very different from running away to live in foreign lands. Your people did not create Israels in Poland and Germany and Spain when they fled Palestine after the Romans destroyed Jerusalem. This is also the difference between me telling you to move to Israel and you telling me to move to Russia. You joining Israeli colonizers would be in the interests of yourself since you will live under a state made by and for people like you, and would be in your people's interest as well. I am not Russian, and I will live as an outsider if I moved to Russia.

I'm comfortable with leaving this here for now, I don't think we'll be getting anywhere for the time being. As I said, I don't hate you. I would appreciate if you didn't try to nuke this sub though.

[–]fschmidt 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I have no problem with people who want to form a community or even a nation based on race. That is their business. But they should have the decency to recognize that there are other groups that are not defined by race. If they fail to recognize this then they are just deluded morons who can never possibly understand the world.

I do not think in terms of race and I don't care about racial groups. I don't care about whites and I don't care about racial jews for the same reason. I care about culture and religion. I grew up with no exposure to jewish culture or religion, so I don't consider myself jewish. I find jewish culture as alien as any foreign culture. My parents were from Hungary and my father grew up in the Hungarian upper class, also with no exposure Judaism. I grew up American and I considered myself completely American until the West went insane.

My cultural group is traditional America, same as Fred Reed who moved to Mexico when America went bad. These are the values I am looking for, and which I found in the Mennonite area in north Mexico. So this is where I plan to go. I have been Israel and I have almost nothing in common with those people. For me, Israel is just another foreign country.

Most people on this sub are a lost cause, incapable of understanding anything because of their racism. But if you take Christianity seriously then you should have the tools to understand what I am saying.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

This is a jew telling you to move to Russia as a white Christian. Never do that.

Russia is way worse than the US. Stay in the US and kick the jews out.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

The Mennonite churches that I visited were not racist at all, yet they were more White than any other group that I have seen. What explains this paradox?

That's how all white societies are. That's why you want a country to be close to 100% white. It is best for everyone there.

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    [–]nordmannenLegionnaire 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Mexicans did that? For real? That's crazy, man.