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[–]SoylentCapitalist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

If you say something over and over again it still doesn't make it true. Jews created their religion so they could call themselves 'chosen people' and trying to appropriate such nonsense is cringeworthy IMO.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I don't understand your position and would love you to clarify. Jews have undoubtedly created religions, ideologies and ways of life that are intensely ethnocentric -- we're all fans of KMac's trilogy surely. Christianity was the exception to the creation of ideas of the ancient Judeans/Israelites ideas though given it was universal though in my opinion not egalitarian -- we can debate that later. No orthodox interpretation until the Protestant revolution from my understanding considered 'Jews' themselves the Chosen and regularly maintained that the people of Christ, those who believe in him, are the people of Salvation. I.E the Israelites or Chosen. In fact Christ himself rebukes the Pharisees -- the progenitors of Judaism -- for telling Him that salvation comes through ancestry alone and responds that belief is salvation in the book of John which is firmly opposed to Judaism and contains some of the most 'anti-Semitic' statements imaginable. In other words Christ himself and nearly all of the people who followed him specifically said that you are not chosen just because you're related to Aaron. In fact in all of world history the most Counter-Semitic force -- despite its flaws -- has been the Catholic and Orthodox Churches.

So to your point why did the Jews create a religion so hostile to them and their interests?

[–]FrenologistSaving the World 1 Cranial Exam at a Time 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The big deception was combining the old testament with the new. The two books are diametrically opposed. The New Testament is not and never was part of the old testament. Remember, it was the Romans who decided what books would comprise the Bible. However, before the Romans gave us the Bible, the Zealots/Pharacies designed a neo-Christianity that combined the Jewish Torah with the Gnostic teachings of Christ and his disciples. By combining their religious book with the Gnostic teachings they hoped to co-opt Christianity in an attempt to gain allies/foot-soldiers in their fight against Rome. They lost their fight against Rome but, the religion remained. The Romans tamed the religion by eradicating (book-burning) all the Gnostic teachings and then rewrote many of them.