Its good to see alt right ideas like anarcho-tyranny penetrate the mainstream

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[–]DragonerneJesus is white 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Spot on. You're not seeing things, it is as you expect.

I remember a discussion about Cultural Marxism on r/Denmark where people started doing exactly what you're saying when mentioned, almost like clockwerk, and the proper response was to ask them to distance themselves from marxism, which they obviously wont do. Something like: "To continue the conversation and to take your criticism of the term cultural marxism serious, I just need to know that you're not just calling everyone nazis because you yourself are a marxist. Could you please tell everyone here that marxism is indeed bad before we proceed, so I can know that you're coming to debate in good faith?"

Of course they will never denounce marxism. Leftists are trained not to look "weak", so they always want to be the one attacking and wont condemn lefting ideas like we see cuckservatives do on the right. It is absolutely hilarious to watch in realtime because to every normie the leftist is 100% exposed when they wont condemn marxism and then start defending cultural marxism and calling everyone nazis.

Another approach wrt cultural marxism is to ask them how they, the leftist, would define the things you're discussing. Usually they will come with words that only leftists see as a distinction from cultural marxism. And the normie is already convinced from that.

violent, destructive Far-Leftist riots

Did you mean to say domestic terror attacks? Because that's what they are

[–]SamiAlHayyidGrand Mufti Imam Sheikh Professor Al Hadji Dr. Sami al-Hayyid 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Their 'argument' or 'reasoning' when encountering the term 'Cultural Marxism' can be plotted out as follows:

P1. You have used the term 'Cultural Marxism'.

P2. Nahtzees also used a term akin to 'Cultural Marxism'. (Note that they often write this as though it's some great discovery that they deserve a pat on the back for, 'See, I'm sooo good at detecting Nahtzees!')

C1. You are doing something 'Nazi-ish' and so must be a Nahtzee (guilt by association, 'quacks like a duck, it probably is a duck').

C2. Because you are a Nahtzee, you are also 'anti-Semitic', 'racist', etc. (the consequences of being a Nahtzee)

P3. But I am not a Nahtzee. I'm a Leftist. I'm inclusive, tolerant, etc.

C3. I win. You lose. Your argument is 'wrong' because I 'exposed' you as a Nahtzee and I am 'better' than that.

This same type of 'argument' can also play out when someone uses other taboo terms like 'White genocide'. But 'Cultural Marxism' is one that I have personally observed this happen with numerous times (e.g. at r/ConsumeProduct before its ban). Sometimes the term isn't even used by the person they want to 'defeat', but they'll assume that you implicitly mean it and then follow on with the rest of this 'argument' as though you used it anyway.

Obviously this kind of argument is unsound. All that the Leftist is attempting to do is assert a sort of quasi-moral superiority over his opponent and then conflate his supposed quasi-moral 'correctness' with a factual 'correctness' ('I'm a "better" person than you, which [somehow] also means that I am more correct than you'), which both verifies and falsifies nothing.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Because of your post I just noticed a leftist use this "Every Single Time" in a meme. A horrible meme too about plowing the grass in the garden because its finally spring... Like what's funny about that.

I guess they found a way to combat our memes by banning us and then redefining what our memes mean.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I guess they found a way to combat our memes by banning us and then redefining what our memes mean.

It kind of reminds me of Paul Joseph Watson who would always end up saying something that emerged from the dissident right and places like /pol/. He had this way of making me automatically hate whatever meme he coopted and making it seem stupid and tacky. Kind of like hearing your mother use internet slang.