Will American white conservatives ever stop being tools?

submitted by casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter from self.debatealtright

https://twitter.com/AshaLogos/status/1366167635642097666

http://www.occidentaldissent.com/2021/02/28/donald-trump-wins-cpac-poll/

I'm telling you, they're falling for it again. Its based Trump and Josh Hawley/Ron DeSantis/Trump 2024 once again. After these four years, they still haven't learned their lesson: That elections don't matter and conservatism is a fraud.

They haven't learn that Trump is a fraud either. Platinum plan, money to Israel, doing nothing during the BLM riots, doing nothing to even stop his own election being stolen from him...why exactly do they want to put him in office again in 2024.

Even if they can't put it into their tiny skulls that Trump is a traitor, they should at least realize that he's a loser and moron who exclusively appointed his political enemies to positions of power. Like Nikki Haley, John Bolton, Mike Pompeo...the list goes on.

White conservatives are like a cucked husband madly in love with his wife. No matter how many times she cheats on him, even openly, he always takes her backs and rewards her with a new car, credit card etc.

There really is no hope for these people

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[–]Nasser 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Not if we don't try to reach out, most of us have had that time were we would be the complacent weak conservative, it's up to us to rally them and enlighten them.

[–]TheJamesRocket 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

We really should be trying to influence the MAGA crowd more, instead of merely mocking them. They need to be co-opted over to our side.

Without proper direction from the right people, the boomer conservatards are always going to slam headfirst into defeat. Over and over again, using the same failed tactics.

[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Nah Trump is a good vehicle to make people completely lose hope in the System. What happens when 70 million people believe their votes are completely invalid and they have no political voice?

[–]peoplearereadingcoc 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Signed up on this crap site just to reply to this sentiment, not you in particular. Relying on the system to alienate a sufficient amount of people I do not believe is a reliable strategy. The problem is these people will be easily satiated through the next 'great white hope' or whatever bullshit they convince themselves to believe. This is the lemming problem (/pol/ tier infographic here for quick primer: https://files.catbox.moe/chvhq1.png). These people need to be actively made uncomfortable. In fact the same thought process that leads people to believe that 'other people will wake up, the system is fucking up so bad they will have no choice but to' is the same thought process utilized to ignore ideas or pursuing actions that might disrupt an otherwise fairly comfy existence. Direct Action Against The System is in a way just a fancier way of saying accelerate but we need to accelerate intelligently and understand what truly affects the system and the comfort of those who uphold it.

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

We live in a high tech police state where direct action is de facto illegal in all forms. One of our guys is facing decades in prison for posting memes. I think youre right. Acceleration is the answer. The system has to collapse under it's own weight and tranny powered momentum.

[–]peoplearereadingcoc 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Its unfortunate to say but in our case direct action against the system isn't black and white, we aren't meant to directly advance our goals and push them back. We are supposed to jam the system and prevent the system from "working", thus degrading the quality of life for those the system supports. The more straight forward and productive efforts will be focused on developing local communities/ties and power structures so as the system is rendered unable to provide the comfy standard of living the lemmings have grown to expect they can turn to these alternate structures, the new "system", under our control. Lemmings are always lemmings and they always defend the hand that feeds them.

[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Direct Action Against The System is in a way just a fancier way of saying accelerate but we need to accelerate intelligently and understand what truly affects the system and the comfort of those who uphold it.

Infrastructure attacks that cripple supply lines to urban areas

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[–]peoplearereadingcoc 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Talking on "acts of god" affecting infrastructure, the recent events in Texas were interesting. I wonder how an openly and proudly white nationalist/white advocacy group providing food,water,etc to people that were failed by the system would play out. See: "The Cajun Navy" from the hurricane a few years back. I really wish our army of podcasters would do something useful with their audience and donations, perhaps if any of them ever read this board they will consider this for next time.

[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Casa Pound does a good job of this in Italy I heard but I think in the US it'd be met with heavy hostility.

[–]peoplearereadingcoc 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yea probably, just keep it as local as possible. Talk about how white people are second class now and we have to look out for ourselves while you give out some rations to fellow whites affected in towns. Avoid national press/mainstream social media. I'd like to at least see it tried.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

American conservatism has always been about conserving classical liberalism. Just read the "big thinkers" that American conservatives love. It's people like Edmund Burke, Alexis de Tocqueville, William F. Buckley Jr., and Victor Davis Hanson. None of these people are even remotely interesting. They're incredibly boring and just flat out wrong about almost everything. Compare this to the reactionaries of the European continent and the difference couldn't be more stark. European "conservatives" have thinkers like Joseph de Maistre, Juan Donoso Cortés, Maurice Barrès, and Charles Maurras. Not to mention an entire plethora of fascistoid thinkers as well. Even today European rightists have the superior thinkers. Can you really compare Steve Bannon with Éric Zemmour?