Creating an all new White state is more realistic than ending immigration or deportations.

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[–]antireddit 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Ironically, those are the only definite examples of ethnostates that can survive in the modern world.

Funny you completely omit any mention of Israel. Israel is the very definition of an ethnostate, and one that was just recently built on top of other peoples land no less. Jewish or not, you appear to be a neocon.

Well I'm not Jewish, and I find it really weird bizarre you attack an idea that's meant to solve the problem of preserving an ethnic group first, rather than what the ideology behind it is. Maybe you dream of having multiple Hitlers and National Socialism being put in place in every White nation, but WW2 demonstrated such a candle couldn't even stay burning for more than 6 years. And that's honestly the Alt-right's downfall. If you really value White people, I honestly wouldn't care if there was an island full of them that practice some weird cult belief that are closed off to the rest of the world. Just as long as they're not hell bent on invading nations and claiming everyone is a Jew like Germany did, then we finally solved the race question.

Who the fuck said anything about Nazis or Hitler? You just pulled some long rant about your love of Israel and hatred of Nazis out of your ass for no particular reason, but nice strawman. You SURE you arent Jewish?

America is going to be around forever. Everything from its founding, to its highly defended location and now its economic prosperity basically act like video game cheatcodes where they country can just "wish" itself into being #1. Notice how all the other worldly challengers eventually gave up once they challenged the U.S for direct supremacy.

Spare me your phony patriotism. I'm loyal to the people of this nation. You're loyal to Disney and Amazon. To you America is just an economic ideology, to me it's a lot more.

The solution is simple though. Want to live around Whites and reject the U.S culture? Then simply leave and find a more whiter nation in Europe or start a new one. The time for America electing Hitler or a White Nationalist is dead and we have no one else to blame but ourselves.

There you go with the Hitler shit again Ari. I have no love for the Nazis, and honestly the same group waging demographic warfare in the US are doing it to Europe, so there's nowhere left to run or hide. They are going after every corner of Europe and the anglosphere, no place is safe. I'm not in love with whites, but nor am I just going to ignore what is being intentionally done to them by a hostile group with increasingly unchecked power. If you really arent Jewish then your an idiot. You are shilling for a group that uses you for their own ends and cares nothing for you.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Funny you completely omit any mention of Israel. Israel is the very definition of an ethnostate, and one that was just recently built on top of other peoples land no less. Jewish or not, you appear to be a neocon.

Israel is the "Brazil" of religions. Unless you had this idea that Israelis were all Ashkenazis or European descended, no, plenty of Jews from Africa exist. Their government even paid to bring back Ethiopian Jews by airplane in 1990s.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Solomon

So no, not really an ethnostate. Unless you want to found a Protestant nation and airlift Black Christians or Asians as well?

In regards to Israel building itself on other people's land, well it's also going to backfire on them eventually. Palestinians have really high birth rates, and all of them reject offers to give up their right of return. Unless they agree to a separate two state solutions, Palestinians will eventually get absorbed into Israel similar to what South Africa went through when apartheid ended.

Who the fuck said anything about Nazis or Hitler? You just pulled some long rant about your love of Israel and hatred of Nazis out of your ass for no particular reason, but nice strawman. You SURE you arent Jewish?

Well then I apologize if you aren't arguing for Nazism or Hitler rule in White countries.

Oh spare me your phony patriotism. I'm loyal to the people of this nation. You're loyal to Disney and Amazon. To you America is just an economic ideology, to me it's a lot more. I put my ass on the line for this country, only to see it taken over by a group of corrupt misanthropists who openly seek to demonize me and people like me for the color of our skin while doing the bidding of a foreign nation that never does anything in return.

Well every nation on this Earth can be summed up to an ideology. That's why we have culture and it has a huge influence on society. American culture has always been hyper Capitalist, thus it's no surprise to see Disney or Microsoft or Amazon push this mantle. What happen to the people who live under this culture is they get absorbed by it. Black, Asian, Hispanic Americans. None of them are exactly voting for Communism. Hell, Bernie Sanders got defeated by Biden, this is more proof the U.S culture continues to be Centre rather than complete Left.

There you go with the Hitler shit again Ari. I have no love for the Nazis, and honestly the same group waging demographic warfare in the US are doing it to Europe, so there's nowhere left to run or hide. They are going after every corner of Europe and the anglosphere, no place is safe. I'm not in love with whites, but nor am I just going to ignore what is being intentionally done to them by a hostile group with increasingly unchecked power. If you really arent Jewish then your an idiot. You are shilling for a group that uses you for their own ends and cares nothing for you.

I honestly only met a Jew once in my life. And it was those stereotypical ultra orthodox guys who go to temple every day. I honestly didn't really pay attention to him, and he didn't pay attention to me. I just don't see why I should. But you are wrong that somehow every European country is doomed. Hungary for example, has a Prime Minister/President who is paying his own citizens to have more children. Why not move to that country and contribute? Otherwise, you're just typing away at a computer while the world continues to rotate.