Creating an all new White state is more realistic than ending immigration or deportations.

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[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

The people never voted for this stuff.

But they did, to the point so many Whites voted for Biden over Trump partially because they were upset at the border detention centres.

In 1943, 90% of American servicemen said they would rather lose the war than end segregation back home.

I'm not sure what this statistic has to do with 2021? Are you saying White people never changed their mind about race? It absolutely has changed and I can even show you countering statistics if you want to play this game...

Hart-Celler was able to narrowly pass in Congress after it was promised that it wouldn't significantly alter demographics.

Ok, and what are you trying to tell me again? Future politicians have pushed for more diversity not less. Hart-Celler might not have even mattered just based on the fact I mentioned. The attitudes towards immigration had changed.

Most (White) people would much rather have strong communities, high employment, low crime, low pollution, local self-sufficiency, and high social spending than cheap Chinese crap.

Then the majority of Whites should have no problem moving to Europe and forming a new community based around those things as opposed to living in Western states that pose a threat? Again, that's the argument I made in the OP. You wont get that if the majority of White people are addicted to cheap Chinese crap or they want to employ programmers from all over the world. The proof is in Walmart and Amazon stock has continued to explode these past few months...

And oftentimes capitalism doesn't even make things cheaper.

In context, Capitalism is absolutely about competition. What's cheaper than getting thousands of rare minerals from China, or importing low wage laborers to work in the sun all day growing food? At least when you combine those things with other perks about Civilization and yeah, life would get very expensive if they were to stop.

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But they did, to the point so many Whites voted for Biden over Trump partially because they were upset at the border detention centres.

There was more immigration under Trump than there was under Obama. Trump didn't even campaign on immigration this time around. The "kids in cages" are still there, they're just not getting coverage.

Then the majority of Whites should have no problem moving to Europe and forming a new community based around those things as opposed to living in Western states that pose a threat?

As long as America is still around, and is still wielded as a weapon by rootless cosmopolitans, White people will not be allowed to build communities anywhere.

The proof is in Walmart and Amazon stock has continued to explode these past few months...

The stock market is entirely fake and gay. That should be the takeaway from the GME fiasco.

In context, Capitalism is absolutely about competition.

Capitalism is about the accumulation of wealth into fewer and fewer hands. Capitalism tends toward monopoly (i.e. anti-competition).

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

As long as America is still around, and is still wielded as a weapon by rootless cosmopolitans, White people will not be allowed to build communities anywhere.

If North Korea and Cuba can still exist despite being America's mortal enemies, White people can absolutely build communities anywhere. The question is you have to actually defend it.

Capitalism is about the accumulation of wealth into fewer and fewer hands. Capitalism tends toward monopoly (i.e. anti-competition).

Well I don't disagree at all. Capitalism clearly does concentrate wealth into Elite companies. But that's the reason I'm saying White people should flee these nations. Everytime you pay taxes or shop at Walmart, YOU ARE SUPPORTING THIS SYSTEM.

But if White people live in their own White nation state, the money goes back into their own community. Do you disagree with this?

[–]TheJamesRocket 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

But they did, to the point so many Whites voted for Biden over Trump partially because they were upset at the border detention centres.

Biden didn't get more votes than Trump, thats nonsense. He won the Election through blatant fraud. On election night, the vote counting was stopped at several swing states at around midnight. They did this because the votes where overwhelmingly in favour of Trump. The Deep State was forced to use Dominion software to change the verdict.

The hysteria over the border camps was also a load of contrived bullshit. Those camps were established under the Obama administration, and they didn't become a scandal until Trump got into office. Even the most sanctimonious liberals didn't really care about them. It certainly wasn't some breaking point for a critical mass of Americans, as you seem to imagine. The detention camps were nothing more than an endless number of contributed scandals the media used to pummel Trump with over the entire duration of his Presidency.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Biden didn't get more votes than Trump, thats nonsense. He won the Election through blatant fraud. On election night, the vote counting was stopped at several swing states at around midnight. They did this because the votes where overwhelmingly in favour of Trump. The Deep State was forced to use Dominion software to change the verdict.

Sorry but these claims have been debunked. Trump was literally the only person to spread these claims when every other official found no evidence of fraud.

https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-54959962

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/nov/05/viral-image/no-michigan-ballots-counted-after-election-day-are/

The hysteria over the border camps was also a load of contrived bullshit. Those camps were established under the Obama administration, and they didn't become a scandal until Trump got into office. Even the most sanctimonious liberals didn't really care about them. It certainly wasn't some breaking point for a critical mass of Americans, as you seem to imagine. The detention camps were nothing more than an endless number of contributed scandals the media used to pummel Trump with over the entire duration of his Presidency.

I agree with the hysteria and Obama part. However, it was only under the Trump administration did they implement much more severe family separation policies which is what angered a lot of people.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2018/jun/19/matt-schlapp/no-donald-trumps-separation-immigrant-families-was/

[–]TheJamesRocket 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

How about no?

The BBC and Politifact (LOL) are not legitimate news sources. Especially not on subjects regarding Donald Trump.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Then I can't help you. It should have been a slam dunk for Trump to prove all this time that MILLIONS of votes were fake, but every single recount done by hand showed he lost. https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/07/politics/georgia-recount-recertification-biden/index.html

[–]TheJamesRocket 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Those were process recounts, not result recounts.

Anyways, there is tons of evidence of election fraud. They stopped counting in the middle of the night, that alone is very suspicious.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Those were process recounts, not result recounts. Anyways, there is tons of evidence of election fraud.

All this evidence, yet none of them lasted more than a day in court.

They stopped counting in the middle of the night, that alone is very suspicious.

Or maybe elections are never completed in a single day? Poll workers are still human and need sleep.

[–]TheJamesRocket 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

All this evidence, yet none of them lasted more than a day in court.

There have been 63 lawsuits filed over the Elections, which made allegations of vote fraud.

Of the 63 lawsuits dismissed, NONE has been granted discovery.

Of the 63 lawsuits dismissed, NONE has had a review of the fraud at hand.

Of the 63 lawsuits dismissed, they were dismissed on: no injury (there is no injury yet), no standing (you're not a party to the injury), or mootness (should have filed earlier).

Or maybe elections are never completed in a single day? Poll workers are still human and need sleep.

Some of the contested states had only been counting for a few hours by the time they abruptly decided to stop.

Here are the times the vote counting started at, in Eastern Time: Minnesota at 8 PM, Georgia at 7 PM, Nevada at 10 PM. Wisconsin at 7 AM, Michigan at 7 AM. Human exhaustion wasn't a factor, and even if it was, that just means you bring in more poll counters and go into overtime. You don't just stop counting.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Of the 63 lawsuits dismissed, they were dismissed on: no injury (there is no injury yet), no standing (you're not a party to the injury), or mootness (should have filed earlier).

I looked at some of the lawsuits and they seem to be desperate attempts at denying the election loss. For example, one lawsuit literally tried to get mail-in ballots thrown out. Sorry, that's not how fraud works. https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-campaign-lawsuits-election-results-2020-11

Some of the contested states had only been counting for a few hours by the time they abruptly decided to stop. Here are the times the vote counting started at, in Eastern Time: Minnesota at 8 PM, Georgia at 7 PM, Nevada at 10 PM. Wisconsin at 7 AM, Michigan at 7 AM. Human exhaustion wasn't a factor, and even if it was, that just means you bring in more poll counters and go into overtime. You don't just stop counting.

It's always been like this, save for the current pandemic we're going through right now. But there is no requirement every single vote is to be counted in one day.

[–]TheJamesRocket 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Why are you even on Saidit? You are an NPC who can't see outside the box.

Seriously, go back to Reddit.