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[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

The establishment has already put forward the narrative that the "Holocaust" was only possible with the use of homicidal gas chambers. Without the homicidal gas chamber, there can be no extermination camp, and there can be no Holocaust. Wartime concentration camps are never a fun place to be. But it's this notion of "industrialized mass murder" that earns the "Holocaust" its unique place in history.

Well I'm not the establishment, nor do I subscribe to them. And no, don't downplay Germany's concentration camps. These people had no reason to be there in the first place, and they were deliberately put in harms way to stroke Hitler's ego (i.e look at how the V2 Rockets were built. They often relied on dangerous slave labor that killed those who worked on it). If you want to build war material, do it with your own population and with a proper salary. But don't round up civilians at gun point and order them to make weapons for you.

The American government murdered dozens of cult members much more recently, does that mean that American liberalism is irredeemable?

Yes? I don't support any government that murders its citizens who haven't committed any real crimes. But the U.S government still allows for freedom of religion so it's not quite an ongoing purge. In one of my links, it was clearly mentioned Germany tried to ban the Jehovah's Witnesses and they brutally beat up those who kept their faith.

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If you want to build war material, do it with your own population and with a proper salary. But don't round up civilians at gun point and order them to make weapons for you.

Every country involved in WW2 had forced labor camps.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Do you have a source for Canada using forced labor in WW2? Especially those deliberately exposed to dangerous projects? I have one document that says POW labor was not approved until 1943, and those who did work did so on farms. https://ir.lib.uwo.ca/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=9207&context=etd

But I'm also reading conflicting reports that employing POW's wasn't popular, especially as they ended up fleeing.

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Do you have a source for Canada using forced labor in WW2? Especially those deliberately exposed to dangerous projects?

The big reason Canadian labour camps weren't a dangerous place, was that the war wasn't being fought on Canadian soil.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The big reason Canadian labour camps weren't a dangerous place, was that the war wasn't being fought on Canadian soil.

Or maybe Canadians in general just weren't interested in abusing their prisoners the same way the Germans did? For example, Jehovah's Witnesses were still persecuted by the Canadian government, but there where no stories of them being beaten up for it or had their heads cut off.