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[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Thank you for your response.

The fact that mixed-race peoples already exist and have always existed is totally irrelevant, since even up to this day, only a very small percentage of white people practice miscegenation (despite all the constant pro-miscegenation propaganda thrown at us for the past decade or so). The percentage of white people that practice miscegenation is, however, slowly on the rise, but only due to said pro-misgenation propaganda, since the percentage of white people who practice miscegenation used to be even lower (almost down to zero) only a couple of decades ago, long after the last anti-miscegenation law was repealed, and only a couple of decades ago the majority of white people used to be actively opposed to miscegenation as well. This isn't to say that all miscegenation is necessarily immoral or should be banned, but the fact that it's constantly being promoted (which is disgusting as hell, the way it's being promoted even more so) can't be ignored; every other commercial has interracial couples, and almost always a black man with a white woman.

I need proof that propaganda can force someone to have sex with another human. Sorry, but if you can believe White people can build rocket ships, but they also have zero control over their penis, there's an implication that free will doesn't exist. I also feel like there's a slippery slope to this idea. For example, if enough propaganda can make white people have sex with black people or Asians, does this imply I can make someone a neophiliac by flashing them pictures of dead bodies? No amount of rotting bones will ever make me want to hump a skeleton I think.

If it wasn't already obvious to you, the elites aren't particularly a shining example of moral consistency. In the same way shove diversity down our throats while living in over 95% white neighborhoods, they remain in white nations while undermining them. Just because they love being amongst white people, because they get to reap the benefits of it, doesn't disprove the fact that they hate white people (this isn't exclusive to the elites either, the same phenomenon can be witnessed in the types of non-whites who are less intelligent/succesful than white people, blacks in particular). The reason they live in white neighborhoods should be obvious (these neighborhoods are peaceful and socially cohesive, and they won't get attacked for being white, or looking white in the case of Jews). And them staying in white nations is probably mostly because it's economically the most profitable, because the West is the economic powerhouse of the world (due to the high intelligence, inventiveness and productivity of white people), and as a result has a very large consumer base with a large disposable income.

There's a massive contradiction. The Elites can stay in the West because it's wealthy, but you are aware that massive amounts of immigration directly contributes to these nations being even more powerful, right? In which case, it's not a race thing. It's the same reason you go to New York City or Los Angeles and find the richest tech companies, yet travel to Appalachia or the poor suburbs of Alabama, and they're nowhere as advanced despite being made up of native white people? This is what puts the white genocide theory to the test. The Elites are being made richer when they continue to import the smartest scientists or entrepreneurs from all over the world. Whether it's China, Iran, Nigeria, you cannot deny that diversity does in fact select for stealing high IQ geniuses from all over the world and put them in one spot. But if the Elites only cared about being the best slave driver, they can already buy a plane ticket to Brazil and literally finish off the 1 or 2% white people that still live there.

The "the elites want to create a mixed-race slave class" thing is a bit of a strawman, but there's probably at least some truth to it. The theory goes that the elites want to create a mixed-race class that's submissive and very hedonistic (in part because they'd have no racial identity to lean on, which would make them a very profitable consumer base), and intelligent and socially capable enough to perform low-skilled labor but too dumb to question the system in a meaningful way (let alone overthrow it); so probably somewhere in the 80-90 IQ range. Assuming this theory is entirely true, why the hell would they waste shit loads of time, money and resources to import Australian Aboriginals (of which there aren't even a million to begin with) into all corners of the West, when it's far cheaper and more efficient to just open the borders of white countries and import low-IQ non-whites from the most nearby third world countries (Africa and the Islamic world for Europe and Central America for the US), which they're already doing by the way, and then promote miscegenation?

What is the scientific formula for creating a slave? Is it two parts black, 1/4 Mexican and 1/3 vietnamese? Considering every race in human history has been enslaved, it seems kind of silly there actually exists a threshold for when mankind is suppose to be 100% obedient. Much less, if you're not targetting the dumbest IQ group to be your perfect slave, why have any threshold? Maybe 140 IQ half mixed Chinese people are the perfect slaves? Or why not 100 IQ half portuguese half germans? The Alt-Right must prove to me that any kind of mixed race group is suppose to be ideal for a new world order. Because nothing in science says that certain human beings will want to live as slaves forever. If you ever seen the movie Dejango,

I don't know about anti-white remarks from Merkel (but she has imported a million "refugees" a year into Germany during the Migrant Crisis), but both Biden and Trudeau have expressed anti-white sentimens out in the open. They obviously haven't literally said stuff like "fuck white peope", "white people are scum" or "white people should be exterminated", but they've both expressed that the historical European cultures of the US and Canada are racist and need to be reimagined, and they've admitted that whites are getting replaced and expressed joy over it.And white people still getting welfare isn't proof against the fact that there is an anti-white agenda either. In fact, although I personally support welfare, welfare is actually a very useful tool in the hands of the elites for bribing poor (white) people into poltically conceding on social issues (giving up their socially conservative and "racist" sentiments). If labor wasn't outsourced to the third world, cheap labor wasn't imported, and a university degree wasn't required for almost any job, a lot less people would be dependent on welfare in the first place. And white people nowadays might have a better life than ever before if material conditions are your only metric, but what does that mean if you're dying out as a race, losing more and more political power in your own countries and getting your culture destroyed? Also, are you really going to argue white people wouldn't be enjoying such good material conditions today if the elites wouldn't have started fucking with us? The West was well underway towards this ever-increasing standard of living far before the elites started fucking with us, and quality of life today probably would've been even higher if they were out of the picture.

The viewpoints expressed by Trudeau or Biden are equally shared with the millions of White voters who also put them in power. Keep in mind, these are White people who can be doctors, police officers or firefighters, so all the power is in their hands to make the lives of other white people unbearable, and yet we don't hear stories of White doctors deliberately killing white patients or White Firefighters letting every White family die in a fire. The Alt-Right must address the free will question. If White people in practically every Western country are fine voting for the same policies that make them a minority, how do you truly classify them as evil or prove their motives are based on harm? But at the same time, the wealth of Whites continues to grow, or that White people are enjoying less wars and conflicts than their ancestors did after two devastating world wars?

I can't speak on behalf of the entire "dissident right", although a lot of us in the "dissident right" probably share this sentiment, but what you've described doesn't sound too dissimilar to what's basically my worldview; wanting to make the world a better place for everyone, but without compromising on white interests. The best way to go about this is benevolent colonialism.

If we go with Colonialism, then I can easily see the Elites using the same arguments to control Western countries. They'll import non-white scientists or engineers who still manage to contribute to society while at the same time earning enough money to send back to their families and help them improve their own living conditions.

[–]YORAMRWWhite nationalist, eugenicist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I need proof that propaganda can force someone to have sex with another human. Sorry, but if you can believe White people can build rocket ships, but they also have zero control over their penis, there's an implication that free will doesn't exist.

You didn't even interact with my arguments, because you're obviously too busy jerking off to your own talking points with the typical smug, anti-white snark added to it. Like I already said, the white people who do practice miscegenation are still a small minority, because they aren't literally forced to. No one is claiming white people are literally being forced to miscegenate, just that we're being bombarded with interracial propaganda (especially in commercials), which can't be denied.

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What is the scientific formula for creating a slave? Is it two parts black, 1/4 Mexican and 1/3 vietnamese? Considering every race in human history has been enslaved, it seems kind of silly there actually exists a threshold for when mankind is suppose to be 100% obedient. Much less, if you're not targetting the dumbest IQ group to be your perfect slave, why have any threshold? Maybe 140 IQ half mixed Chinese people are the perfect slaves? Or why not 100 IQ half portuguese half germans? The Alt-Right must prove to me that any kind of mixed race group is suppose to be ideal for a new world order. Because nothing in science says that certain human beings will want to live as slaves forever.

How is this in any way relevant? You're really pivoting like crazy. You were the one who brought up the "slave class" strawman crap, not me, and argued that the ideal slave class should be as dumb as possible, and that therefore if the elites wanted to create a "slave class" they'd import Australian Aboriginals instead of mestizos, pajeets and negroes. I merely pointed out how full of shit you are with that ridiculous bullshit argument. And obviously, if they're trying to create a "slave class", they almost certainly wouldn't be kept as literal slaves, just as very low wage wokers who will be kept calm by their Netflix after work, basically what is already happening but more extreme over a longer timespan.

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The viewpoints expressed by Trudeau or Biden are equally shared with the millions of White voters who also put them in power. Keep in mind, these are White people who can be doctors, police officers or firefighters, so all the power is in their hands to make the lives of other white people unbearable, and yet we don't hear stories of White doctors deliberately killing white patients or White Firefighters letting every White family die in a fire.

Because, obviously, of the white people who have anti-white biases, only a tiny minority actually deep down hates white people, and of that tiny minority, only a tiny minority are literal murderous sadistic psychotpaths who'd be willing to do disgusting shit like letting innocent white people burn alive or murdering white patients. Are you projecting something or what?

But actually, it isn't even true that most white people have an anti-white bias. In the US, 55% of white people feel discriminated against for being white, and in most western nations the majority of population is opposed to immigration (yet their politicians don't give a shit).

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The Alt-Right must address the free will question.

We mustn't nothing, you disgustig little freak. White people don't owe you anything. There's nothing wrong with us sticking up for our kind.

If we go with Colonialism, then I can easily see the Elites using the same arguments to control Western countries. They'll import non-white scientists or engineers who still manage to contribute to society while at the same time earning enough money to send back to their families and help them improve their own living conditions.

No, because unlike the elites that fuck with us, we don't intend to systematically replace the natives of colonized countries with white people, or pillage their economies, or publish constant propaganda about "black privilege" or "mestizo privilege", or put their women in commercials in relationships with white men.

It's more like, without our supervision, they're breeding like rabbits, living in extreme poverty and flooding our countries despite having recieved billions of development aid for decades, so we're gonna help them out but that also means we get to make their laws, restrict their procreation and make sure they stay the fuck away from our countries.

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PS: I should report your comments for participating in bad faith but I won't (for now at least) so people can laugh at you and join me in wiping the floor with you.

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Stop feeding the trolls

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's a debate sub. He might be bumping up against the good faith rule by the tone of his responses but I don't see troll activity. Please report comments that you think are related to trolling so I can track them and kick him if warranted.