Cannot find any data that shows Whites murdered by Blacks/vice-versa in the US

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When I google "How many whites killed by blacks" I get fact deboonkers and no straight up data on it. Does anyone have any date or sources they can share?

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[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

Try AmRen and Taylor's book 'The Color Of Crime'. Colour of crime takes its data straight from law enforcement and things like the Crive Victimization Survey.

It is remarkable how they try to hide that though. The report the NYPD puts out which still includes racial categories makes fascinating reading. 85-90 percent of all violent crime is committed by Hispanics and Blacks.

https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/nypd/downloads/pdf/analysis_and_planning/year-end-2018-enforcement-report.pdf

[–]Nombre27 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Here's the tables from the NYC document if you ever want to reuse them

2018 American Community Survey Race and ethnicity makeup of NYC (source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_New_York_City#Demographic_profile)

% Relative to White
American Indian 0.4 106.75
Asian + Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander 14.0 3.05
Black or African American 24.3 1.76
White 42.7 1.00
Hispanic or Latino(of any race) 29.1 1.47
Other races 15.1 2.82

Murder and Non-Negligent Manslaughter: Victim, Suspect, Arrestee Race/Ethnicity

Victim (%) Suspect (%) Arrestee (%) Suspect demographic proportion adjustment relative to white
American Indian 0 0 0.3 0
Asian/Pacific Islander 2.8 1.7 1.5 0.960185
Black 62.6 61.9 60.1 20.17481
White 9.6 5.4 4.6 1
Hispanic 24.9 31 33.4 8.438889
Total (n) 288 299 323
Known Race/Ethnicity (n) 281 294 323
% of incidents with Race/ethnicity known 97.6 98.3 100

Rape: Victim, Suspect, Arrestee Race/Ethnicity

Victim (%) Suspect (%) Arrestee (%) Suspect demographic proportion adjustment relative to white
American Indian 0.6 0.4 0.4 3.618644
Asian/Pacific Islander 7.2 6.5 6.6 1.680085
Black 37.4 48.6 43.3 7.248814
White 19.7 11.8 7.2 1
Hispanic 35.1 32.8 42.4 4.086102
Total (n) 1343 1351 808
Known Race/Ethnicity (n) 1243 1093 801
% of incidents with Race/ethnicity known 92.6 80.9 99.1

Other Felony Sex Crimes: Victim, Suspect, Arrestee Race/Ethnicity

Victim (%) Suspect (%) Arrestee (%) Suspect demographic proportion adjustment relative to white
American Indian 0.2 0.8 0.3 5.207317
Asian/Pacific Islander 7.2 5.9 6.6 1.097256
Black 33.4 38.8 33.3 4.163902
White 26.2 16.4 11.5 1
Hispanic 33 38.1 48.3 3.415061
Total (n) 1128 948 729
Known Race/Ethnicity (n) 1010 763 723
% of incidents with Race/ethnicity known 89.5 80.5 99.1

Robbery: Victim, Suspect, Arrestee Race/Ethnicity

Victim (%) Suspect (%) Arrestee (%) Suspect demographic proportion adjustment relative to white
American Indian 0.9 0.1 0.1 2.320652
Asian/Pacific Islander 15.8 2.4 3.2 1.591304
Black 30.6 65.8 60.5 25.17565
White 13.9 4.6 5.7 1
Hispanic 38.7 27.1 30.5 8.660217
Total (n) 14046 20644 9024
Known Race/Ethnicity (n) 11756 16245 8997
% of incidents with Race/ethnicity known 83.7 78.7 99.7

Felonious Assault: Victim, Suspect, Arrestee Race/Ethnicity

Victim (%) Suspect (%) Arrestee (%) Suspect demographic proportion adjustment relative to white
American Indian 0.5 0.3 0.3 3.953704
Asian/Pacific Islander 7.2 5.6 6 2.108642
Black 46.1 52.4 52.2 11.38568
White 12.3 8.1 8.1 1
Hispanic 33.9 33.5 33.3 6.07963
Total (n) 20380 20849 15745
Known Race/Ethnicity (n) 18464 17370 15662
% of incidents with Race/ethnicity known 90.6 83.3 99.5

Grand Larceny: Victim, Suspect, Arrestee Race/Ethnicity

Victim (%) Suspect (%) Arrestee (%) Suspect demographic proportion adjustment relative to white
American Indian 1 0.3 0.1 2.482558
Asian/Pacific Islander 14.5 4.5 5.7 1.063953
Black 24.3 58.3 51.8 7.954109
White 37.2 12.9 14.1 1
Hispanic 23 24 28.3 2.734884
Total (n) 42648 23818 10419
Known Race/Ethnicity (n) 33974 11302 10327
% of incidents with Race/ethnicity known 79.7 47.5 99.1

Misdemeanor Sex Crimes: Victim, Suspect, Arrestee Race/Ethnicity

Victim (%) Suspect (%) Arrestee (%) Suspect demographic proportion adjustment relative to white
American Indian 0.4 0.8 0.4 5.972028
Asian/Pacific Islander 7.9 8.2 8.8 1.748951
Black 35 40.3 40.5 4.96
White 19 14.3 10.8 1
Hispanic 37.6 36.3 39.5 3.731538
Total (n) 5671 3698 3088
Known Race/Ethnicity (n) 4964 3144 3052
% of incidents with Race/ethnicity known 87.5 85 98.8

Misdemeanor Assault and Related Offenses: Victim, Suspect, Arrestee Race/Ethnicity

Victim (%) Suspect (%) Arrestee (%) Suspect demographic proportion adjustment relative to white
American Indian 0.6 0.4 0.3 4.186275
Asian/Pacific Islander 8.8 5.4 6.3 1.614706
Black 39.5 50.3 46.7 8.679216
White 14.1 10.2 10.3 1
Hispanic 36.9 33.7 36.4 4.856765
Total (n) 53630 54407 34318
Known Race/Ethnicity (n) 50510 46831 34128
% of incidents with Race/ethnicity known 94.2 86.1 99.4

Petit Larceny: Victim, Suspect, Arrestee Race/Ethnicity

Victim (%) Suspect (%) Arrestee (%) Suspect demographic proportion adjustment relative to white
American Indian 0.9 0.4 0.4 2.685535
Asian/Pacific Islander 11.7 3.5 4.7 0.671384
Black 32.1 52.7 45 5.833459
White 29.8 15.9 17.8 1
Hispanic 25.5 27.6 32.6 2.551698
Total (n) 85748 56637 23418
Known Race/Ethnicity (n) 45747 37349 23275
% of incidents with Race/ethnicity known 53.4 65.9 99.4

Misdemeanor Criminal Mischief : Victim, Suspect, Arrestee Race/Ethnicity

Victim (%) Suspect (%) Arrestee (%) Suspect demographic proportion adjustment relative to white
American Indian 1 0.4 0.4 2.719745
Asian/Pacific Islander 10.4 4.3 5.3 0.83535
Black 38.1 49.4 42.1 5.537834
White 21.2 15.7 18.2 1
Hispanic 29.3 30.2 34 2.827643
Total (n) 36635 18609 5797
Known Race/Ethnicity (n) 20682 9220 5766
% of incidents with Race/ethnicity known 56.5 49.5 99.5

Race/Ethnicity of Hate Crime Victim, Suspects and Arrestees

Victim (%) Suspect (%) Arrestee (%) Suspect demographic proportion adjustment relative to white
American Indian 0 0 0 0
Asian/Pacific Islander 9.1 1.4 2.7 0.180932
Black 24.7 55 44.7 4.101695
White 46.1 23.6 51.3 1
Hispanic 20.1 20 1.3 1.245763
Total (n) 355 358 150
Known Race/Ethnicity (n) 154 140 150
% of incidents with Race/ethnicity known 43.4 39.1 100

Shootings (any crime where victim struck with bullet)

Victim (%) Suspect (%) Arrestee (%) Suspect demographic proportion adjustment relative to white
American Indian 0.1 0 0.1 0
Asian/Pacific Islander 1.6 0.4 1.2 0.435714
Black 73.3 72.6 68.3 45.63429
White 2.6 2.8 2.2 1
Hispanic 22.4 24.1 28.2 12.6525
Total (n) 897 477 375
Known Race/Ethnicity (n) 884 464 366
% of incidents with Race/ethnicity known 98.6 97.3 97.6

Firearm Arrests (satisfying specific selection criteria), Compstat Logic

% Suspect demographic proportion adjustment relative to white
American Indian 0.1 2.014151
Asian/Pacific Islander 1.6 0.920755
Black 69 22.91321
White 5.3 1
Hispanic 23.9 6.628868
Total (n) 2928
Known Race/Ethnicity (n) 2917
% of incidents with Race/ethnicity known 99.6

Source: Crime and Enforcement Activity in New York City (Jan 1 – Dec 31, 2018) https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/nypd/downloads/pdf/analysis_and_planning/year-end-2018-enforcement-report.pdf

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Great job, Nombre.

[–]SoylentCapitalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

85-90 percent of all violent crime is committed by Hispanics and Blacks.

This is very different nationally. The widely quoted FBI statistics shows whites commit 58.7% of all violent crime.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2018/crime-in-the-u.s.-2018/tables/table-43

[–]Nombre27 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

And that's less than their demographic proportion. You understand per capita, right?

[–]SoylentCapitalist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

And? The point was showing it's very different from the 85-90% when looked at nationally. 85-90% would be absolutely ridiculous even for lower IQ races.

85-90 percent of all violent crime is committed by Hispanics and Blacks.

[–]EuropeanAwakening14 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And Mestizos are counted as white in that data. So, it's actually way less crime committed by Whites.

[–]Nombre27 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh okay. Gotcha.

[–]WatchOutThere 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Except that includes Arabs and Hispanics under, "White race." Remove those two groups, and it would probably be somewhere between 25% - 30%.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Did you actually read the source you quoted? Did you see the 'ethnicity' column?

[–]SoylentCapitalist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Percent distribution says Hispanic or Latino only makes up 25% for violent crime. Even if you add all the Hispanics to the black column it's 62.4%. Still very different from 85-90% nationally. What aren't you getting?

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I didn't ever say it was 85 to 90 nationally.

The report the NYPD puts out which still includes racial categories makes fascinating reading. 85-90 percent of all violent crime is committed by Hispanics and Blacks.

Read the fucking post again and post the Eyferth study more.

Even if you add all the Hispanics to the black column it's 62.4%.

Oh so even if you appraise the data honestly Whites commit no mare than 38 percent despite your 58 percent claim?

[–]SoylentCapitalist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I didn't ever say it was 85 to 90 nationally.

Never said you did. Go back to my first comment:

This is very different nationally.

This is the argument and the statement you replied to.

Responding to your edit:

Oh so even if you appraise the data honestly Whites commit no mare than 38 percent despite your 58 percent claim?

I was simply stating what the source did, which had whites at 58.7%. Not that this matters because I'm defending my original statement that the 85-90% statistic in the NYPD for blacks and Hispanics is very different when compared to nationally.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Never said you did. Go back to the first comment:

You don't even stand behind your own words:

Even if you add all the Hispanics to the black column it's 62.4%. Still very different from 85-90% nationally. What aren't you getting?

Fucking time waster. Done with you.

[–]SoylentCapitalist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Logic escapes you.

[–]cisheteroscumWhite Nationalist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Use FBI statistics

Graph

From Sean Lasts blog:

Interracial Homicides by Racial Composition of Victims and Offenders, 1976-2005. Blacks kill around 2.5x more whites than whites kill blacks each year

Last, Sean (2019),Fox, J. and Zawitz, M. (2010)