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[–]NeoRail 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

This post is completely incoherent, half the stuff you posted are about Ukraine and Ukraine is the state farthest from Duginism in terms of policy, perhaps in the entire world. How does any of this make sense?

[–]Jesus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

I'm not claiming Ukraine in its current state is Duginist. Though the Perestoika deception is alive and well there.

[–]NeoRail 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Though the Perestoika deception is alive and well there.

Explain.

[–]Jesus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

That Communism never really died and is using Orthodoxy and fronting so-called democracy and faux christian values to destabilize countries like the Ukraine. Have you read any of Golitsyn's books?

[–]NeoRail 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

That Communism never really died and is using Orthodoxy and fronting so-called democracy and faux christian values to destabilize countries like the Ukraine.

Orthodoxy and Communism have nothing in common, especially not "fronting democracy". If you want to know who destabilised Ukraine, look up who endorsed the Maidan and what happened after it.

Have you read any of Golitsyn's books?

I don't even know who that is.

[–]Jesus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Never said they did, I said they are fronting it. Read his book New Lies for Old or his other book. Just search his name.

[–]NeoRail 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Dude this guy you named is a literal CIA asset, probably had his script fed to him by some rabid warmonger trying to keep his faction in power by overplaying the threat posed by the Soviet Union. By the 90s, the Soviets were in deep decline and could hardly achieve anything other than defend themselves. As to "fronting" democracy, there are still plenty of people alive from the time of Perestroika and many of them speak English. Speak to some of them and you'll quickly see how real it was. Undermining the foundations of CPSU hegemony is precisely what toppled the entire Warsaw Pact. It wasn't some elaborate "high optics" manoeuvre. As to how "communists" would turn into nationalists or liberals, it is because very few of the communist party members were actual true believers - most were opportunists in it for the benefits. It was very, very lucrative to be a communist party member in the Warsaw Pact and this is another thing you can learn about for yourself. Luxury commodities as well as positions of power and prestige were all restricted to members of the communist party. It is obvious, then, why the communist parties of Eastern Europe were full of cynical opportunists that only obeyed power. When Gorbachev dismantled that power, the obvious happened - these people found a new master, America. That was their solution to the problem of preserving their power. What about the KGB? Yes, ex-KGB operatives run the FSB and Russia today. No, this does not make Russia "communist" in the least. The communist system is dead and these people, like their colleagues all across Eastern Europe, have moved on. Now their power and prestige depend on preserving the Russian state and amassing money, not on preserving the communist system and communist party.

These efforts to present the entirety of Russian politics of the last 30 years as some sort of organised communist plot to destroy the West are just the desperate attempt of the Cold War American war lobby to rehash the old American-Soviet conflict in order to legitimate their rule, extensive domestic powers and the siphoning of more and more money from the taxpayer. It's a complete fiction. Russia today is in no position to challenge America in anything and moreover it does not even need to do so, as America is now dismantling itself in the same manner that Gorbachev dismantled the Soviet Union.

[–]Jesus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You might be right. I'm going to research Golitsyn further.

[–]NeoRail 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If you only research him you will only ever be able to get a part of the whole story. Look into the things I mentioned. If you like, look into the FSB as well and see if they are the kind of people to be running a long term Soviet operation. The FSB is a huge organisation with a lot of operatives and they basically form a separate culture within Russia. I think you will quickly find that they have very different interests from the old KGB. Most of all it might be useful to look into the power struggle between Yeltsin and Gorbachev. In some countries like Poland there was even a total purge of the old political class. I think it becomes very hard to maintain this hypothesis of continuity between the USSR and Russia once you read up on that. You can take it even further by comparing Soviet economic performance and military spending to the greatly reduced Russian ones. The IMF "shock therapy" drama is also illuminating. No sane statesman, much less a group of statesmen, would undertake such a devastating course of action just for the sake of an operation of the type that Golitsyn suggests. The risk is exorbitant, the chance of success is very low and the payoff is also low. If this hypothetical plan relied on the admission of Russia into the European community, then it has backfired terribly as Russia is currently both severely diminished and still subject to diplomatic, economic and military isolation like the Soviets were. The only Russian politician to receive any Western approval is Navalny and his political platform literally includes purging the state apparatus of everyone currently involved with it, like the Poles did.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (12 children)

what does this have to do with dugin? how about 'Enought with the retarded SCHizophrenia' and go take your meds?

[–]369 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

He's submitting that Dugin created a facade behind which he controls Putin, Putin is a "Jew" and they're going to instigate a fresh Khazarian Empire.

I can't exactly dispute enough about it because most geopolitics isn't exactly my thing (outside of certain nuance), but I will say that I can agree about the end game. I'm not certain he's really got the exact players right, as I'm pretty confident there's plenty of other groups that have decent influence, to some degrees which override the "Jewish" influences, but things certainly aren't hegemonic and they never have been.

[–]Jesus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Israel and Jerusalem are the answer here. Cabala teaches that Jerusalem will be the seat of the world. What was it that Ben Gurion predicted 80 years ago? He said that Russia would become a Federation, the US a welfare state and Jerusalem the capitol of the world as prophesied in Isaiah and she would SORT OUT all Nation state differences under the supreme court of mankind. The Khazarian empire would entail this. The US is a part of this goal and her major internationalists plan on destroying the US economically enough to completely annihilate her empire status. The US will still take a place in this empire but it will be in a weakened position. This is an international agenda so obviously there are many politicians within the sphere of unipolarism who will oppose such an aspiration.

[–]369 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's more like Jerusalem was the seat of the world.
We're venturing in to the allegory now.

You're nearing speculation quickly and this is where it gets fuzzy.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You read my mind.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm going to find a cure to schizophrenia and put it in the water supply just to spite this OP. But first I'm joining my local gangstalker branch so we can fuck with him.

[–]Jesus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Schizophrenia is largely caused by untreated brain infections.

[–]Jesus[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

How about stop supporting a Bolshevik Jew who calls for genocide. If you follow Dugin you'd know he supports Chabad and Zionism and Israel and the World Jewish Congress.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Who's supporting anything? You're making random schizoposts based on what exactly? Post proof or keep your nonsensical ramblings between you and the voices in your head.

[–]Jesus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sorry, this was meant for Ethnocrat.

[–]Jesus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Dugin quote:

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Ue0iHpMOPto/WiN6px4BVLI/AAAAAAAANfA/bb1sZfJR0EUNSefhloFXcKT1jvPCiZ8QgCLcBGAs/s1600/Aleksandr_Dugin_on_White_race_zpswzyrnoze.jpg

Dugin sure is irrelevant except for the fact that many Zio alt-righters in the US who were fervent supporters of Trump went on to praise Dugin and some traveled to Russia to meet him.

Dugin’s connections to:

  • the oligarchs

  • Israel

  • the alt-right (Matt Heimbach, Richard Spencer, Nina Kouprianova) & the Charlottsville’s protest

  • Zionism

  • Eskin

  • the kabbalah

  • Aleister Crowley

  • Freemasonry

  • Talmudic Judaism

  • René Guénon

  • the occult

  • separatist movements

  • world-wide

He is the personification of an anti-Christ and Bolshevik Jew.

Dugin’s thoughts on:

  • Roman Catholicism

  • Eurasia (Soviet Union 2.0 with Judeomasonic British ‘Israel’ Eurasian ethos supplementing communism)

  • chaos

All point to an insane person with a large following that should not be ignored.

“emotions are more important for [Dugin] than reason, and he values irrationality above rationality. His goal is to stir up a highly emotional consumer response to the particular enemy whom he points to. With this in mind, logic proves to be irrelevant.”

Konstantin Malofeev, "we are now a country of the glory of Christianity". Is this why his crowning jewel Tsargrad TV’s set was designed by the KGB's pet artist Ilya Glazunov? And why he has a satanist Aleksandr Dugin sets the editorial policy for this television channel?

Also, Hassidic rabbi Avraham Shmulevich is partners with Alexandr Dugin, Avigdor Eskin, Berel Lazar as he heads 'Bead Artseinu' a hyperzionist group whose purpose is make an Israeli Empire in control of entire Middle East from the Nile to the Euphrates and wants to rebuild the Temple.

Alexander Dugin considers Kabbalist Gershom Scholem “the greatest traditionalist thinker."

Also, you have dumb idiotic Duginites like Richard Spencer, who is a self-admitted Nazbol Duginte, who says, the Jacob Schiff co-founded, ACLU backed his Nazi-to-Noahide Charlottesville disaster psychodrama and his PR firm, the B’nai B’rith Ochs Sulzberger, NY Times agrees:

https://nyti.ms/2N3cjNK‬

https://twitter.com/HereIsJorge/status/1141802000323137537?

As for Putin, he's not Orthodox, he is a lover of Stalin and a Jew, and staunch promoter of Chabad and the Talmud. And we have these same Nazbols and Zionists here controlling the US, though many of them are unipolarists.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

have you ever listebed to dugin or read him? hes literally just a reactionary like medieval christian larper. all his stuff is about pre-modern philosophy and christian theology, what you're talkimg about is the result of listening yo kooky made up shit instead of actually looking at dugin's shit yourself. he's honestly quite unremarkable, most those people have met e michael jones too who is a similar figure is he also some mastermind world controller?

[–]Jesus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I have one of his books, and read the Katehon Institute, I think that's it's spelling, from time to time.

Doesn't mean I can't talk about these people, after all, Alex Jones interviewed him.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The Russian state and Ukrainian state are still involved in armed combat, ever since the CIA led a color revolution, and now Ukraine has a Jewish president. But I don't see how Dugin can be blamed for any of that.

[–]Jesus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm not blaming him, it's merely his rhetoric in the broader scheme of things.

[–]TheJamesRocket 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Thanks for the post, u/Jesus. I've heard Dugins name thrown around before, but I never paid any attention to the man. After reading your post, I decided to do some research on him. What I found is not pretty.

[–]Jesus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Care to share.

[–]TheJamesRocket 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

This is one of the articles that I found: Duginism Update: Alt-Right goes full Eurasianist

[–]Jesus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Cool site, will read tonight.

[–]Jesus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

[–]Jesus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Controlled opposition/Eurasian shill and former Alex Jones associate Paul Joseph Watson Paul Joseph Watson @PrisonPlanet · May 23, 2020 If there's anyone I love more than Brits, it has to be JEWS every time. And it's a close call.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EsjXgkgXYAE_UGY.jpg

[–]369 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I don't mean to represent anyone, but the symbolism you lot are often scared of, like when you point out the art on the dollar bill, isn't as malevolent as you seem to think.

What do you make of Very Putina claiming motherhood of Vlad?
Sure the official story is that Shelomova was his mother, but I'm just not so sure I can agree that I think he's "Jewish" considering this.
I'm just thinking that's not a very "Jewish" thing to say...

Keep in mind, Trump waltzed in to Israel fucking wore the prayer shaw and went to Arabia and danced with swords. Then, Vlad passed him the
fútbol.
I'm just not sure I can see your angle. I'm sorry, fren. You seem diligent and I generally enjoy what you're doing, but I'm afraid I can't real fit the "Jewish" focus meme frame quite as easily as you can.

For instance, Rome has considerable power next to the "Jews".

[–]Jesus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

That source you posted is such disinformation it is unbearable to read. Putin is Jewish, he has admitted this many times. He has his own Chabad rabbi as well. Someone who represented him, and did a presentation on his ancestry a year back mentioned that his mother was Jewish and he has a long history of Jewish ancestry. I'll link it when I can find it. Dugin is also Jewish and a National Bolshevik.

"Europe and the West thrives on a culture of pedophilia and Satanism" Looking forward following his meeting with Mr. Trump though, Putin said they had set the scene for a new era of cooperation describing their talk as a "breakthrough" and a "huge step forward" in the fight against the current Satanic pedophile world order.

^ ^ ^ Putin never said this but Dugins mouthpieces in the US did. What does this look like to you? It looks like they are scapegoating the west to make Putin the hero which goes hand-in-hand with a multilateral Eurasian order that is often talked about by the IMF and Bank for International Settlements in a necessary light as long as they control the BRIC equivalent SDR currency.

I've written elsewhere that when unipolarist Zionists see that the majority are waking up to their schemes and treachery and control of the treasury they will initially pass laws banning criticism of them, as they have already done in the East where they openly celebrate saying, "all are anti-Semites are in prison." If that doesn't work, violence will be their answer.

He never said the West is run by Satanic pedophiles. Infowars and Druge Report Zionists did! For CRYING OUT LOUD, Alex Jones had Dugin on his show!!!! They are all multilateral duginists and the new economic order once the US officially is destroyed economically is a multilateral order.

They are attacking the left hand and bringing you into the right hand. Classic Cabalist Crowlyist rhetoric, who Dugin is an admirer of.

The Chabad is in control and they are a a Jewish cult; they don't represent Jewry as a whole and work with New Rome and the East and Israel. Putin got man of the year in Israel for a reason.

agree. But Dugin is no small player in the Eurasian order and he calls for genocide plenty of times.

[–]369 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So... queue the Jared is Chabad. I know, but I'm just not sure you're using the right C word.
Again, why the fútbol?

Also, in response to that translation being a lie, is this why we were told to learn Russian?

[–]arainynightinskyrim 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Dude, nobody cares about dugin and his retarded ideology whatever it is, we are european ethnonationalists and that's it.