Do you side with (((Azov))) or the based Donbass separatists?

submitted by Courbeaux from self.debatealtright

Do you side with the neo-con, capitalist, pro-Israel, Zionist, NATO-backed, CIA-backed, EU-backed, Jewish oligarch funded, globo-homo "fascists" of the Azov Battallion, who are committing genocide against White people on behalf of kikes, or do you side with the Aryan nationalist, anti-Zionist, anti-Semitic, NazBol, anti-globalist, anti-neoliberal, anti-ZOG freedom fighters of the Donetsk and Lugansk Peoples' Republics?

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[–]Ethnosomniator 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Not everybody must understand every global conflict zone. At some point, the narratives overlap, traitors turn on their betraying faction, patriots fight on the wrong side and so on. As an outsider, there is no point.

I can say that I am uncompromising pro White and hope whatever side wins (if that is even in the cards) will increase White wellbeing, agency and right of self determination.

[–]VraiBleuScots Protestant, Ulster Loyalist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I don’t know enough about Azov & the so called Ukrainian ‘far right’ to comment on them, but I do believe in the National right to self determination, and seeing the Russians of Donetsk, Lugansk, Kharkov, Odessa, Crimea and other place rise up for their freedom as a people, in the face of brutal government opposition was inspiring.

I do understand Ukrainian’s anger at seeing parts of what they consider to be their country being sliced off, but the fact is that the USSR’s borders were a mess & should have been redrawn much more fairly in 1991. This sort of thing is ALWAYS going to happen in ethnically mixed regions, (and is the reason why foreigners should never be allowed into a country in large numbers).

[–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

If I am not mistaken Russians are in these areas of Ukraine because they were put there by the Soviet Union to undermine Ukrainian national identity.

[–]VraiBleuScots Protestant, Ulster Loyalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The exact reverse of those Soviet policies also happened, especially in the early years. Remember there were plenty of non-Russian Bolsheviks.

Historically, the Ukrainians, Russians & even Turkic horse nomads all have a claim to the lands east of the Dniepr, but Russians have been a majority in much of it since at least the last first half of the 19th century

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think you're exaggerating. They just want to win a war against all their neighbors to make their country several times bigger. And purge everyone who isn't a pure-blooded Ukrainian. And implement some socialist policies. And make some temporary alliances with anyone who agrees, literally anyone. Like Hitler, but with a shitty army.

[–]NeoRail 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Dude why are you so weird?

[–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

This article shows a very different Ukrainian nationalism then what you are describing -

https://harpers.org/archive/2021/01/the-armies-of-the-right-ukraine-militias/

Nothing aligned with Putin's Russia will give rise to Aryan nationalism.

[–]Courbeaux[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

But something aligned with NATO will?

And of course they claim to be "Nazis", but Nazis who don't hate Jews, and accept Jews as members. They've said that openly.