4 in 5 say US is falling apart: survey

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[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

I have a feeling that 2025 will be the inflection point of liberalism

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

It's definitely drawing near. All the trends are pointing to the implosion of liberalism.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

You're very optimistic, friend. I don't think liberalism will go away after the implosion of USA at all.

[–]SoylentCapitalist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think it'll stick around in the Anglosphere and a few other nations in Europe. It will have less support though if the US does collapse.

[–]NeoRail 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Why not? Unless the EU somehow magically federalises, I can't imagine global liberalism outlasting the USA by more than ten or fifteen years at most. What will come to replace it is of course another question entirely. Perhaps we will just get a whole bunch of Pinochets and authoritarian boomercons all over Europe.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's certainly within realm of possibility, especially if Russia and China step up their game. However, in Western/Mid Europe it will definitely stay for a while, since politicians there know how obfuscation of power is great way of keeping it, and are more sensible than American jignat sellouts, they have better grasp at soft-hard power dynamics.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

In what way?

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Downwards. Something will happen in that time frame. Either a world war, a great civil war, a collapse of the dollar or state collapse in the west. It could lead to one of four outcomes:

  1. Complete Jewish victory and transformation into a totalitarian neo-marxist state with nightmarish repression incorporating all the horrors of modern technology.

  2. A breakdown of the United States or France into ethnically homogenous mini-states.

  3. Collapse of the liberal world order. The US crumbles and turns inwards. Liberalism and democracy loses purchase across the world. Countries in Europe turn into Erdogan/Putin esque regimes. The military establishment take control and appeases populists by passing popular laws and policies. A slow transformation towards a normal society begins, like Putin and Russia.

  4. A catastrophic world war and collapse of civilization.

[–]bobbobbybob 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'll take 3, please.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I hope so