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[–]GConly 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

What about that particular category irks you?

It's from research by Paula England and Eliza Brown, who publish papers on this sort of thing.

https://contexts.org/blog/an-unequal-distribution-of-partners-gays-versus-straights/

Data from the National Survey of Family Growth surveys, collected between 2002 and 2013.

Other by the same.

https://sociology.berkeley.edu/paula-england-increases-sex-same-sex-partners-across-cohorts-how-gender-and-racial-inequality-affect

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

So you want me to believe, that 79% of non-virgin straight women, in their prime carousel years, have had either one or no partners in the last year? Have you seen the world? In actuality, their distribution should probably look a lot like the gay men's distribution (where you would really see a difference is breaking out an extreme category like 10+). What this data really says, though, is that up to 2013, Western women weren't proud of being whores yet.

[–]GConly 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

So you want me to believe, that 79% of non-virgin straight women, in their prime carousel years, have had either one or no partners in the last year?

It was 11%. Where did the 79% come from?

Yeah, that's pretty standard. I'm unusual as an adult woman in that I've never had a dry spell, I met my husband at 16. Most of the women I've know had quite long spells single when young.

The modal number of sexual partners per woman in a lifetime us something like three (the mean is higher because some really go for it). Number of sex partners in college actually hasn't changed much since the sixties.m, despite what you might think.

Why the hell would the number of female sex partners look like a gay man's?

Women are usually looking for THE guy, gay men a usually looking for A guy. We are way less interested in casual sex. I've known two women who were into that my whole life.

If you're going to go for the old incel trope of "they all lied in the polls", the male numbers match up to the female. These low numbers also match up to epidemiological studies into STD spread. And it comes out the same in different polls.

Where you do see some dishonesty is women tend to leave non consensual or abusive sex partners out of the numbers, and men tend to overestimate. Women will go through the names and count up in these polls. Men will say 'about' X number, but then can't match it exactly on a named partner basis.

The average incel has heavily bought into the MRA bullshit about women "riding the cock carousel" until "they hit the wall". Truth is that's a minority of women (about 7% are into casual sex), most will have a pattern of a couple of partners in school and college then settle down with a LTR in their twenties. That often means long spells celibate, and it may shock you that women are way less bothered by that than men are.

Sex in the city isn't real life you know. Women are way pickier and most would rather go a year or two without, rather than risk getting tangled up with someone who's not a good long-term prospect.

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It was 11%. Where did the 79% come from?

11 + 68 = 79

Most of the women I've know had quite long spells single when young.

It's possible that there's some selection bias here (for one or both of us), because that doesn't match my experience at all.

Number of sex partners in college actually hasn't changed much since the sixties.m, despite what you might think.

Well all this Weimar crap was already taking off in America by the 60s.

Why the hell would the number of female sex partners look like a gay man's? Women are usually looking for THE guy, gay men a usually looking for A guy.

I thought your point with this data was that, for the most part, gay male behavior is similar to that of straight men. And the modern woman is like a man with less accountability.

We are way less interested in casual sex. I've known two women who were into that my whole life.

So you've only known 28 other women in your whole life? (going by the 7% figure)

If you're going to go for the old incel trope of "they all lied in the polls",

Women are more concerned with social expectations, this is borne out by many studies. This is a big reason why more women are oversocialized leftists. And because they are physically weaker, women rely on manipulation and deceit to get their way.

the male numbers match up to the female.

It would be somewhat believable if they actually were the same, but they're clearly far from it. And that's hard to explain without some serious under-reporting on the part of women.

These low numbers also match up to epidemiological studies into STD spread.

The most important factor here is rectal fragility. Anal intercourse is particularly risky, and it was virtually absent in women until the 90s. It's almost impossible for a guy to catch HIV through ordinary sex with a girl, so if you have a functional medical system (i.e. one which doesn't reuse needles), it doesn't become established within the straight population. HIV spreads through semen. A low STD rate among lesbians is certainly not due to their cleanliness or chastity, god no. It's a matter of anatomy.

Where you do see some dishonesty is women tend to leave non consensual or abusive sex partners out of the numbers

But also: all straight sex is rape.

The average incel has heavily bought into the MRA bullshit about women "riding the cock carousel" until "they hit the wall".

The problem with incels isn't their analysis, but their defeatism, nihilism and hedonism.

Truth is that's a minority of women (about 7% are into casual sex)

Where is this figure coming from? And what do we consider "casual" here? Because it's all casual with the death of marriage. And even if a girl only starts seeing a new guy every 3 months, that'll already put her in the 4+ category. If half of the college-aged women are seeing a new guy at least every three months, then that alone would put the proportion of women with 4+ partners at 12%. That would actually be in line with the 11% for straight men. That would also mean that for every one promiscuous woman to accurately report their activity, two lie.

Women are way pickier and most would rather go a year or two without, rather than risk getting tangled up with someone who's not a good long-term prospect.

But the important point here is that should they want to, they have an endless stream of potential suitors made constantly available by Jewish dating apps.

[–]Nombre27 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The most important factor here is rectal fragility. Anal intercourse is particularly risky, and it was virtually absent in women until the 90s. It's almost impossible for a guy to catch HIV through ordinary sex with a girl, so if you have a functional medical system (i.e. one which doesn't reuse needles), it doesn't become established within the straight population. HIV spreads through semen. A low STD rate among lesbians is certainly not due to their cleanliness or chastity, god no. It's a matter of anatomy.

Old one from Cernovich if you never saw it

https://archive.fo/w33HS

https://archive.fo/ZdzsK

Larger version of the graph from there https://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/images/2012/Incidence-fact-sheet-fig1.jpg

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I probably could have gone without knowing how this degenerate heeb uses baby wipes on his ding dong so he doesn't have to wear a condom. Sorry, Kike Thernobitch just pisses me off.

[–]Nombre27 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, he's a bit of a loser. Post reminded me of this and I think the data is worth sharing.

[–]GConly 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

11 + 68 = 79

Ah I misread the comment. And yes you should believe that.

Where is this figure coming from? And what do we consider "casual" here?

It was more than a certain number per year, and actively pursuing new temporary partners on dating apps or in clubs.

The 7% was from a different study of human sexual behaviour, not personal experience. I've not known enough women to make changes that kind of statement.

But also: all straight sex is rape.

Sigh. No.

Anal intercourse is particularly risky, and it was virtually absent in women until the 90s. It's almost impossible for a guy to catch HIV through ordinary sex with a girl,

HIV rates in the prostitutes of Africa and their male clients beg to differ. Anal sex not a big thing over there.

HIV spreads through semen.

It spreads through micro-tears in the sex organs. Which is why anal sex is riskier, it tears more easily.

What you seem to be missing (I'm guessing deliberately) is that 68% of women are only having one partner per year, and 11% had none in the past year.

If you're wigging out at the numbers (and they are consistent between studies) it's because you've absorbed some extremely distorted ideas about female sexual behaviour from MRA/incel sites that aren't based on fact.

And even if a girl only starts seeing a new guy every 3 months, that'll already put her in the 4+ category. If half of the college-aged women are seeing a new guy at least every three months, then that alone would put the proportion of women with 4+ partners at 12%. That would actually be in line with the 11% for straight men. That would also mean that for every one promiscuous woman to accurately report their activity, two lie.

Yeah... the modal number over a lifetime for females in the west is one.. Same for men. Your little scenario is not at all common. As the data shows, the modal number of partners per year on only one, for a start. So that's 79% having one or no partners.. so that "if half of college age women" theory just isn't a goer right from the start.

But the important point here is that should they want to, they have an endless stream of potential suitors

The important point is they only want one.

There's a paper knocking around that asked how many sex partners men and women wanted in the next year. The answer was nearly all 'one' for the women, and the men too.