The Nazi Inspiring China’s Communists

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[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Yep, the Chinese are reading both Schmitt - who's my favorire thinker - and Heidegger. They're not really communists anymore though. They're technocratic neo-Legalists.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Explain what a technocratic neo-Legalist is for the people at home

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

To me it seems quite obvious that the Chinese are trying to synthesize technocracy and neo-Legalism. When I say technocracy I'm talking about the Veblenite concept, not the contemporary - and misattributed - neoliberal concept. Most people have no idea what technocracy actually means. Neo-Legalism refers to the revival of the old Chinese philosophy of Legalism which emphasized state authority and conformity. Schmitt's ideas are very similar to Legalism, which is why the Chinese are so interested in his work.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Explain what Veblenite technocracy is for the people at home

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Veblenite refers to Thorstein Veblen. An American economist and sociologist who was a critic of neoclassical economics. He wanted to dismantle the business enterprise and put engineers in charge of the industrial system, which is called technocracy. 90% of Chinese govenment officials have engineering degrees, so they're probably the most technocratic regime in history. Having a bunch of neoliberal Silicon Valley CEOs dictate policy is not a technocracy.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I was only familiar with the Veblen term but I thought it was pretty much synonymous with meritocracy but with a structure IE industry leaders organising the economy through corporatism/syndicalism rather than specifically engineers.

lol @ people who think faggot big tech nerds are the technocracy though smh when will libtards learn

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I thought it was pretty much synonymous with meritocracy but with a structure IE industry leaders organising the economy through corporatism/syndicalism rather than specifically engineers.

It's all technical experts, but primarily engineers.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Though Chinese academics are often circumscribed in what they can and cannot say, they nevertheless do disagree in public.

Heaven forfend! Wouldn't happen in the good ol' freedom luvvin West.

Whereas liberal scholars view the rule of law as the final authority on value conflicts.

Spits coffee as laughs meme.

This shift is significant: It marks a move from what had been an illiberal government in Beijing—one that flouts liberal norms as a matter of convenience—to an anti-liberal government—one that repudiates liberal norms as a matter of principle.

Liberals are afraid and they should be. This Atlantic article is actually an OK read if you can get past their 'Nazis are everywhere' silliness. This is the more sober side of the liberal response.

In Australia many liberals -- who feel the Chinese wolf is much closer to their door than Americans I think -- have just taken to outright pandering and shameful capitulation. If you can stomach it take a look at this article which was written by one of our most respected racial grievance mongers Stan Grant. (BTW for anyone confused yes that article was published on the Australian State Broadcaster's website not the Chinese one.)