Female VB politician honors fallen SS soldier

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[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

SS were pretty cringe

What? Why?

[–]Minedwe 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

They were Pagan (or at least the leadership were) and were, from what I've heard, incredibly elitist, leading to the Wehrmacht not liking them, which caused problems at the end of the war.

They also perfectly exemplify the fractured and rather incohesive nature of Germany's top echelon of leadership. Too much rivalry and juvenile behavior for such momentous men to be partaking in, especially since their mission was so important.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

They were Pagan (or at least the leadership were)

That's actually one of the best things about them.

and were, from what I've heard, incredibly elitist, leading to the Wehrmacht not liking them, which caused problems at the end of the war.

That's false. The Wehrmacht - dominated by the Prussian aristocracy - was far more elitist.

[–]Minedwe 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's actually one of the best things about them.

So the fact that they fell into a Jewish trap and undermined their own effectiveness and trustworthiness is one of their best qualities?

That's false. The Wehrmacht - dominated by the Prussian aristocracy - was far more elitist.

the Wehrmacht may have been elitist in its upper levels, but they had reason to be, their leaders were extremely decorated and experienced veterans of combat and leadership, who were loyal to Germany as a whole.

By comparison, although they had VERY impressive aces and upstarts, especially in the field of armor, the SS was new and filled with lots of fresh troops. Not to mention their very wide roles, as they were used as bodyguards, police, and elite military units.

In my view, the SS got a lot of new things such as brand new tanks and equipment, diverting them from the Wehrmacht. Not only that, but they were more loyal to Hitler, or more accurately Himmler, than they were to Germany and Europe as a whole.