The reason I went from being a liberal to joining the alt/dissident right

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[–]antireddit 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Jews are neither uniformly evil nor super intelligent. Both are myths that have some basis in reality but have been overstated, especially by the alt right. Ironically the trait that people allude to as being "evil"-their tendency towards extreme ethnocentrism-betrays a lack of intelligence, or at least empathy and an understanding of human nature. Being ethnocentric in the way many of them are is itself a sign of a sort of stupidity, or cultural immaturity. A sign that probably doesnt show up on IQ tests.

Most Jews, or at least a large percentage of them, are just ordinary people both in terms of intelligence and how evil or generous they are. I've known some that were decent people. Unfortunately there is an "elite"(for lack of a better word) that seems to be above average in intelligence and more sociopathic than the majority of the population, as well as being incredibly ethnocentric(even by Jewish standards). This cultural elite arent the most intelligent Jews nor are they geniuses for the most part. Those Jews that are truly geniuses tend to go into science fields like physics chemistry or biology and they probably are the least ethnocentric of all Jews, being able to see the stupidity of such behavior.

The "evil" ones tend to be above average in intelligence but not excessively so. They are just smart enough to be dangerous but not smart enough to understand the destructiveness of their extremely ethnocentric behavior, both to Jews and society at large. They tend to be paranoid and clannish, and see Jews as humanities permanent victims. These tend to be media Jews, lobbyists, social scientists and wealthy businessmen types. Their extreme ethnocentrism is not an accident. They likely learned early on the best way to achieve success and wealth is to use these ethnic connections to cross promote each other. Hence the reason this group is likely so ethnocentric and hostile towards non Jews.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes I agree with nearly all of this and am reminded of some data that suggests Episcopalians score higher or on par with Ashkenazi Jews on some measures of intelligence -- see Steve Sailer.

There's a really strong pattern I notice with White elites in the West and Jewish ones that goes something like this: Generally our White elite the more wealth and influence they gain the more Universalistic they become whereas with Jews often it's very much the opposite. I'll add the caveat that Jews often become Universalistic as well but unlike Whites their Universalism seems not to come at the expense of their own ethnic particularism which is not true for the White elite.

Ultimately I can't blame them for that and wish our elite would do the same but ultimately it's harmful and this is why -- not because of goofy debates about who really is the 'master race' -- our movement opposes them and all Nationalist movements have had to confront this question.

[–]EuropeanAwakening 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Straight diarrhea. "Ehtnocentrism is dumb and immature, goy, now stop talking about Jews".

Not being ethnocentric is immature and shows a lack of understanding of human nature. Your moral superiority over us is fake.

[–]antireddit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think you're misunderstanding me. Ethnocentrism is neither inherently good or bad. It depends on the context in which it manifests and the degree to which it's manifested. If you're a minority allowed into a country by the good graces of a majority population, you should respect that majority ethnicity and possibly assimilate into it. Jews not only tended to do neither, but seemed to repeatedly do things to antagonize and subvert the majority, BECAUSE of their unrestrained ethnocentrism.

The US is a great example of this ethnocentrism gone wrong, with a segment of them expecting the majority ethnicity to bend to their whims and alter their society in destructive and unsustainable ways.