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[–]Minedwe 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

By that logic, Democracy and Globalism are failures because the US couldn't/didn't stop 9/11, and Britain is a failure because it failed to prevent the Blitz.

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    [–]Minedwe 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Winning a war at insanely steep odds against most of the world is not a requirement for success.

    I'm talking about meaningful success, as in creating a greater life for their citizens and achieving feats of technology, science, etc.