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[–]cisheteroscumWhite Nationalist 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

I'm Libertarian mostly but the mainstream Liberts have departed from roots and joined the open/no borders Judaslibs.

"nothing on saidit that more exactly suits my preferences", so I have moved to s/fringe

But that's exactly the problem I see with your very nuanced libertarian, anti-Jewish worldview: you're alone. There is no one else but us. I used to be a libertarian before I came to AR (or "dissident right", whatever). Now that I've learned about IQ and peoples' sociopolitical behavior I've come to realize full-on libertarianism is a pipe dream and will never come to pass.

Without debating the last point, regardless, the only population that can reliably support libertarianism are whites. So you need to appeal to them directly, because blacks/browns/asians cannot be relied upon to be persuaded to join you. On top of that, you are aware and critical of the Jewish power structure. These two facts puts you squarely in our camp, whether you like it or not. The libertarian/authoritarian disagreements are just trivial or irrelevant to our current situation

[–]Marginotions[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

As always, CHS, I appreciate your, um, friendly demeanor? As you may have noticed my departure from DAR is not permanent like I thought it was. Just today I posted a Paul Roberts piece because it's just right for this right.

Readers here don't like my writing style, but said post was entirely composed by Roberts. I also defer from DAR in that they are firmly supremacist, and I'm opposed. Dominance is too much like the Judasots, a pain for everyone but those in the ruling class.

So if I chance upon some other tidy bits that suit DAR well, I may continue, otherwise, I'm staying away except to look. Today I found a small sub https://saidit.net/s/AltRight, maybe that is something to look in 2.

[–]cisheteroscumWhite Nationalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Ha - it's meant to be friendly, at least

No I noticed that post and remembered you had tagged me in a comment. I didn't think you were leaving permanently or anything, I was just making a general statement on your views as I see them

I also defer from DAR in that they are firmly supremacist, and I'm opposed.

On the one hand I respect your ideological commitment but on the other hand I just don't agree with that assessment. Most Alt-Righters reject the trope of "supremacist" or any kind of imperialism

[–]Marginotions[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

trope of "supremacist" assessment

I learned about this recently in a PragerU video, which I discuss here.

After thinking about this more, I notice the dominance theme in other AltRight attitudes as well eg. alt-religion.

Here is a simple analogy about dominance: Domination: shadow model vs strangle model

Most Alt-Righters reject the trope of "supremacist" or any kind of imperialism

That may be, but they are deluding themselves. It's called "in denial".

[–]cisheteroscumWhite Nationalist 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I find your explanations to be overly-complicated and your analogies confusing here. To be racially supremacist/dominant just means to control other races either through totalitarian militant means or perhaps indirect socioeconomic influence (i.e. like Jews do today). Most of the Alt-Right will outright say they do not want to do this and just want a space for whites. It is that simple

[–]Marginotions[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

just want a space for whites. It is that simple

If only the reality was so simple. Ethnic purity is beautiful. Discrimination, Segregation, these are not supremacy because once your THEM opponents are out of the picture, your basic US can live in peace while THEM do their own thing. If US has the arete, the virtue to thrive, one might hope and expect US to grow tall enough to overshadow THEM.

Have a look at my recent post Downside of Diversity, for a sociological study on what happens in societies with too many outsiders.