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Interesting assessment, I believe you posted this before on Reddit. The assertion of traditional complementarian societies being misogynist is indeed flawed as they usually are gynocentric in their own right and uphold women's roles whatever that maybe as something admirable rather than to disdain, this is far from misogyny. It is mostly based on re-defining and re-interpreting of these terms by post-modern ideologies, as we also see with racism, into new meanings, as well as the belief that not abiding by egalitarianism through social regulations on women's behaviour is misogyny because they believe any such restriction is based around dislike of women (even if such standards are as harshly applied to men).

However, for arguments sake in a theoretical sense, could not adoration for mothers be viewed as something separate from general perception of women due to the role of maternal bond, its nurturing nature and the usual lack of sexual feelings? Thus, while they may display misogynist tendencies they can nullify their own mother from this as they do not regard her truly as a "female" psychologically.

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However, for arguments sake in a theoretical sense, could not adoration for mothers be viewed as something separate from general perception of women due to the role of maternal bond, its nurturing nature and the usual lack of sexual feelings? Thus, while they may display misogynist tendencies they can nullify their own mother from this as they do not regard her truly as a "female" psychologically.

Most healthy males should be able to respect other women who are mothers, as they as they can see their own mother reflected in them and understand the importance she holds for her children. That's why most "misogynistic" behavior is directed towards young women who, instead of becoming mothers and living healthy lives, chose to engage in dissolute behavior. In comparison, very little "misogynistic" behavior is directed towards traditional elderly women. However, hating a woman who is an immodest slut should not be termed as "misogynistic", just as hating a man who gets drunk and beats his wife and kids should not be termed as "misandrist." In both cases, the reason these people are hated is because they deviate from proper social roles, not because of their sex.

Speaking of the maternal bond and its importance in getting men to empathize with women, in Shia Islamic (and especially Iranian) tradition there are many songs which commemorate females who were martyred or persecuted for their faith, and these songs frequently evoke maternal themes. Here is one of my favorite examples, which I find very emotional: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxA-nz7pvCk

According to Western liberals, the men in this video are all "misogynists" because they probably support modesty laws.