Opinions on the Confederacy?

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[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

Then they will continue to destroy your civilization. This libertarian horseshit of "not my job/not my problem" needs to die. You are not getting rid of the Africans nor are you separating from them even in your wildest fantasy. You need a way forward that is feasible.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

You can just close your borders and defend your nation against invaders. As long as you have enough bullets and bombs, I doubt a billion can seep through the cracks.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

You have an ironic username that conveys my response

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

You fail to understand the will to power. If you have a strong military, invaders won't be able to march into your country and take it over.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

That's not even close to how reality works.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

How is it not?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

How many nations with strong militaries that exhibited collapse do I have to cite? I can take it step further and point to civs that fell apart when miscegenation and cultural decay became rampant as well. You cannot stem the tide with today's technology and political climate. You have to address the source.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

That is not relevant to the argument I have answered though. Your core premises is that it is inevitable that civilizations collide with one another and because of advancements of air travel. This isn't actually true though because countries use force to restrict the entry of people into their territories. The ability to keep invaders out is a function of strength and the will of the country to defend their borders. External factors that prevent the ability of a nation to enforce the protection of its borders is based on a myriad of factors that is not relevant to your premises. Your core assumption is the nation has to be tiny and economically interdependent on rival countries that could flip allegiances if they don't allow the non-white swarm into their countries. That could happen, but it isn't inevitable.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Your core premises is that it is inevitable that civilizations collide with one another and because of advancements of air travel.

You misunderstood. Air travel facilitating multiculturalism is a facet of modernity but the overall argument is that you cannot control for billions of people in disparate society staying separated forever. And no, I don't want to hear about how you "AKSHULLY CANN" it's a statistical impossibility.

The best solutions is always to address the actual problem. Insulating yourself does nothing but delay.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Air travel facilitating multiculturalism is a facet of modernity but the overall argument is that you cannot control for billions of people in disparate society staying separated forever. And no, I don't want to hear about how you "AKSHULLY CANN" it's a statistical impossibility.

It is possible, if it wasn't we would have billions of Africans, Chinese, and Indians in the United States. The ability to defend a nation's border comes down to state policy and power. If a country can be hamstrung economically by other nations and is put upon to take in foreigners it doesn't have the will or power to defend their own borders.

The best solutions is always to address the actual problem. Insulating yourself does nothing but delay.

Defending your borders is not isolationism. It is still possible to exert power, participate in economic and information exchange around the world without bringing any immigrants inside the territories of a nation state. China for example has strong border policies and still participates in economic and information exchange with other countries around the world. They exploit this asymmetrical relationship with western countries through our lackluster immigration policies; by buying up neighborhoods, spy on our governments and steal intellectual property.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

That's how it works literally everywhere except white countries. Let's see invaders get anywhere near Israel, Russia or China.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Israel

Jewish identity is rapidly disintegrating due to outbreeding. "High birthrates" are a result of Arabic Jews are frankly primitives and looked down upon by higher castes.

Russia

A strong military worked great for the USSR /s (which, despite its flaws, maintained a much more "pure" and coherent functional culture than the West).

China

A good example so long as they don't become Westernized.

The crux of the argument is whether or not a nation can maintain a cultural and racial "firewall" between itself and the rest of the world. I'm certain that it's impossible and that even China will degenerate in the next century.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Jewish identity is rapidly disintegrating due to outbreeding. "High birthrates" are a result of Arabic Jews are frankly primitives and looked down upon by higher castes.

??? Israel kills anyone near their border. Today they literally killed 4 of their own soldiers thinking they were Hezbollah. They regularly kidnap and torture or even murder civilians near their border.

maintained a much more "pure" and coherent functional culture than the West

Yes, communism without Jews is preferable to liberalism, obviously.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Israel kills anyone near their border. Today they literally killed 4 of their own soldiers thinking they were Hezbollah. They regularly kidnap and torture or even murder civilians near their border.

Yeah I know, and despite that they are slowly becoming secular and irreligious on top of losing their bloodlines to outbreeding. This just proves my point- a strong military and closed border is not a good enough firewall and only delays the inevitable.

Air dropping condoms over the fucking Congo is the best thing you could possibly do to prolong Europeans at the moment.

[–]antireddit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Why would we not seperate from them in our wildest fantasy? Seems like the simplest solution should things continue to get worse in the US and we see some degree of system collapse and racial violence increases, as seems likely. Im not talking about segregation, but separation, with some form states formed along racial or ethnic lines. Whites arent going to tolerate continuous violence and hatred against them forever, and blacks dont seem like they are getting any less antiwhite, so separation at some point might be the most humane solution for all involved. Why wouldnt it be feasible?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Your ancestors thought the same thing.