Censorship is probably not actually about the bottom line. It's SJWs acting ideologically.

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[–]ChancellorMershekel 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

This. The 'Left' (as an ideological movement) has become so powerful that capitalism, religion, etc. have all become subordinate to it. If capitalism really controlled the Left, why is it that the corporations seem utterly subservient towards its manifestations, the obvious example being BLM? BLM barks 'dat rayciss' and the corporations can't bend over fast enough to appease them. We even have guys making extensive lists of 'woke companies' to avoid, for we tend to despise the Left so thoroughly that anyone who stands against their hegemonic stranglehold has come to seem heroic. Leftism is a full-blown religion in the West. You can say 'Screw capitalism' and people cheer you on. Yet you'll probably be physically attacked by Left-wing sectarians if you say 'Screw feminism' or 'Screw multiculturalism' in public.

Can anyone come up with a convincing argument for the Left being a 'false opposition' that secretly assists in entrenching capitalism? Even if left-Liberals mount no serious challenge to capitalism's fundamentals, and there are not yet enough Antifa-types to effectively challenge it either, capitalism still seems to be in a crisis situation (look at those surveys which show that a majority of Americans under a certain age prefer socialism over capitalism, for starters).

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Can anyone come up with a convincing argument for the Left being a 'false opposition' that secretly assists in entrenching capitalism?

Yes lol. Literally everything they push increases profits for capitalism. Feminism? Double the work force. Immigration? Increase the workforce. Diversity? Union busting. All of liberalism or 'leftism' as you call it is capitalist social policy, it always was.

We're moving into neofeudalism where a few oligarchs own everything and everyone else rents literally everything from them; 'the future is access, not ownership' is their motto. They're applying this to living, cars, media, literally everything. They're even introducing subscription services to features cars come with already but will lock you out of. The goal is to make the whole world resemble the massive cities like London, NY, Silicon Valley etc. All of these places are the most 'leftist' places in the world yet they also have the most wealth inequality. All of 'leftist' is capitalism, there's really no other way to view it.

Honestly you can remove the Jewish anti-white element and view it purely through a material analysis of economic strategies and you would see almost exactly the same thing 1:1 happening. Obviously in the real world it's not just a rational profit-driven thing and there are Jews who hate whites that are intentionally stacking society against us but even if Jews magically disappeared the remaining capitalists will still be pushing 90%+ of this stuff purely for power reasons.

[–]ChancellorMershekel 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Provided that capitalism is behind most of this, all that this demonstrates is that capitalists, or at least the current crop of capitalists, are blind and self-defeating. What do you think will happen to wealth in a country full of rainbow-haired feminists, drug addicts, and third-worlders who consume far more than what they produce? You can't have a decent economy without a decent society. Capitalism won't even be able to migrate anywhere, because the situation will literally be the same everywhere in a few decades. The third-world will remain a cesspool, the first-world will also be third-world. The whole capitalist model of 'produce in the third-world, sell in the first-world' will be permanently over.

All those plutocrats will literally have to live in fortresses like the castles of old. If they step outside, the masses will kill them because they'll want these fortresses and all the stuff in them for themselves. Just like how the mobs pillaged Ben Ali's palace in Tunisia, that is, how the 'dictator' who has accumulated much wealth goes down in any country once he is removed by popular revolt. It'll be South Africa (the wealthier you are, the more you hide behind security, and the more others want to take what you have) on steroids. There, practically the only bustling businesses now are private security companies. Even De Beers, the Jewish-owned diamond company, went from practically controlling the opposition to Apartheid (funding the 'Progressive Party' within the system, and the ANC outside of it) to being sold off, in less than 30 years. That's self-defeating capitalism, right there.

The ultra-rich only have power while the society+economy is functioning. As soon as those reach a critical level, you'll have a handful of people whose wealth is practically useless against the angry masses. If things get that bad (and I actually agree that they probably will if the current course doesn't change), then these idiots will have effectively committed suicide. I don't think they'll be happily living in opulence like the aristocrats of old, who weren't stupid enough to destroy the societies they lived in through feminism/multicult/anything else you mentioned, like a parasite. That stuff will, in the long-term, screw over capitalism, but not Leftists, who couldn't care less if everyone was poor. Making everyone equally poor is the closest we'll ever get to the 'true equality' that these imbeciles stupidly desire, anyway. They've happily killed millions for it in the past, they'll happily destroy everything before they renounce their cult-ish religion.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah it's stupid as fuck but Jews have never minded living in squalor, in fact they've chosen to forever.

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You act like capitalism cares about wealth inequality or living standards, they don't, that's why capitalists want mass deregulation or prefer migrants as they're willing to accept lower wages. Capitalists don't care if most of the population is poor, they care if their wealth is hoarded. The whole world becoming the third world would be beneficial as it just means more wageslaves. By the way, rainbow-haired feminists, drug addicts, and third-worlders are great consumers. Have you heard about "Black Panther" or "Starbucks"? For the drug dealers, just legalise drugs. Most capitalists support legal drugs, its a new potential business venture.

It is not self-defeating, if anything its successful.

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    [–]MarkimusNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Yup, we're already there too. Just a couple days ago Striker got the scoop on Paypal doing exactly this

    [–]Nombre27 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Leftism is a full-blown religion in the West.

    Just like the historical separation of Church and State, and the reasons for that, so too does that rule need to be applied to the religion of social justice. These people have no business legislating their "morals" onto the rest of society.

    [–]ChancellorMershekel 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Especially when they've undergone a practical 'Talibanization' that leads them to bizarrely believe that they have some sort of 'moral right' to uproot everything about history that they don't like, e.g. to destroy practically every historical statue bar those, unsurprisingly, of Karl Marx and his acolytes. That historical Marxists are noticeably exempt from their attempts to demolish and reshape history is perhaps the most obvious giveaway regarding what these people really want.

    What's fascinating is how they have accumulated so much power that their attempts to gain more no longer even require violence. They act with practical impunity, and thus do not even need weapons. Governments won't touch them, because any crackdown on the likes of BLM would obviously be 'racist'. Likewise, they come up with the most absurd excuses for refusing to declare Antifa a terrorist organization. 'They're not organized and have no obvious leaders'. Yeah? A group that has chapters in practically every notable Western city (complete with social media groups and pages, with which they organize their sympathizers) and has obvious chapter leaders? The 'Alt-Right' has no organization (actually, far less than Antifa, given it has no city-wide chapters, and has no equivalent to 'Acab', the anarchist circled 'A', or other Antifa symbols which are ubiquitously found in the form of graffiti, and are evidence of Antifa being practically everywhere) or obvious leader/s either, but notice how the same excuses suddenly don't apply anymore? If a bunch of Cartels or Islamist groups (or even worse, if 'MAGA' or the 'Alt-Right') did a fraction of what those in the CHOP, Antifa, BLM, etc. have done (e.g. mass arson attacks, clashes with police, declaring 'autonomous zones'), it would be considered an 'invasion', as 'terrorism', etc. practically without hesitation.

    [–]Nombre27 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I wonder if there are any legitimate comparisons to them essentially being Bolsheviks 2.0, except that today they have far greater institutional supports. Instead of killing royal families, they're going after the "royal" blood line.