Can anything short of divine intervention, save the West and the planet at large?

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[–]yesofcoursenaturally 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

the West

It's probably going to require 'the West' changing and fracturing.

I have thought of paths to defeat the elite, but I wonder if there's any true will to do anything.

No elite ever get permanently defeated. You defeat plans, not elites. Elites always return. They're almost always terrible.

The only way to defeat the elite permanently is to escape them forever. The prospects get better the further Musk gets with his SpaceX project.

All this is happening because the wrong people won WW2. The ubermensch/ the messiah did come. His name was Adolf Hitler and the world killed him.

As much as I think Hitler made some good points, I'd think people should pause at the realization that slavs - which Hitler was no fan of - are pretty much the only ones having modern success stories, despite having Bolshevik and ideological control for an extended period.

We've got plenty of reason to have hope. A lot of people will be lost, on all sides. That's life.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Elites always return.

True but you can get new elites with new values. Elites aren't always going to be satanic child molesters. In fact we had quite a good run in Europe of the 'christian king' archetype. The nat socs had a military occult leadership group in charge for 12 years (which is ideal IMO).

[–]yesofcoursenaturally 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There are some great elites historically, and even a few now, but the real point is that most people have very little say on who becomes elite. Short of a revolution, all anyone outside of that bubble can do is hope the ones who ascend are good people. And even in a revolution, the best you can determine is which elites disappear. Who takes their place is touchier.