How “good” are the populist right parties in Europe?

submitted by Industrialpigg from self.debatealtright

I’m American, so I’m wondering if these parties are the real deal:

Vlaams Belang

National Rally

AfD

Greek Solution

Lega Nord

Vox

United Right (Poland)

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[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They're all Finkelstein groups.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Good enough, for now.

[–]goodknight 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

There desparately needs to be a viable movement in the UK. The Conservatives always promise reductions in immigration and always fail to deliver.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Patriotic Alternative

[–]goodknight 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

This is true and I follow them on Twitter, however they're not an option to vote for like the BNP was 10 years ago so it feels like a step back. Hopefully in time this will change.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They'll be registering as a party in due time. Make sure you're signed up on their site so you can the email updates to find out when stuff's happening.

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I don't know much about the ones on the Continent, I don't hear much about them these days, so I'm guessing they're not doing great.

In the UK, there is virtually no populist energy right now. Partly due to the Covid-19 crisis I guess. The most prominent force recently was Nigel Farage and his Brexit Party, which was diverted into securing the Conservative Party led by Boris Johnson a massive majority to deliver Brexit. Article 50 (to withdraw from the EU) was triggered a few months ago and it's now all about trade agreements, etc. Free Movement is about to end, which tbh is not as good as it sounds. Somalis, etc with EU passports may not be able to wander in anymore, but there will be less white European immigration. Boris Johnson is a bonafide globalist who is blatantly pro-immigration. He's planning on opening the doors to hordes of people from Hong Kong and non-EU immigration from elsewhere is on the increase.

The Brexit Party obviously has no future and UKIP has pretty much imploded. There is a woman, Anne Marie Waters, who leads a party called For Britain, which is like UKIP (Kosher civic nationalism/pro-Israel) but treads lightly into confronting the Great Replacement and anti-white hatred issues. One of its proposed policies is offering asylum to whites in South Africa. However, the party has no traction.

And of course, there is Patriotic Alternative led by Mark Collett and Laura Towler, which is of course based and redpilled, but it's only being developed right now, it's not making waves.

The next general election isn't until 2024 and we'll have to wait and see what the post-Brexit political landscape looks like.

In Ireland, there is no populist energy full stop. Everything is pozzed. Demographically, it's similar to Britain in around 1980 (92%+ white), so immigration it's not something that concerns the Irish enough. There is the National Party, which Keith Woods supports, but it only received something like 1% of the vote in the recent Irish elections. Probably in part because it's new and hardly anyone knows it exists.

[–]asterias 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Greek Solution

The "real deal" can have a lot of meanings, but I consider them better than nothing but not good enough. This is my take, but I think they are sort of a compromise.