Why some members in this movement shouldn't be allowed to speak

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[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (26 children)

If we want popular support then such statements need to not be voiced.

Which is why you curiously see these inflammatory statements all over the place. They are often made by bad actors who know that the real game is subtle psychological manipulation and propagandizing of the white race. The white nationalist movement is a threat to the global central banking cabal so they pay for team of people to post online and IRL with spergy diatribe to keep normal white people on the egalitarian mental plantation.

[–]Salos10000[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (22 children)

I disagree with that premise, there definitely are genuine people who are like that in our movement just like there are maoists and tankies in Socialist movements that damage their optics. We can't keep just saying its the jews anytime something negative happens with our movement.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (19 children)

there definitely are genuine people who are like that in our movement

I didn't say there weren't.

just like there are maoists and tankies in Socialist movements that damage their optics

Not really. Most of the public is shielded from seeing the dark side of 'socialism' by the Lugenpresse. You can't have bad optics if you never get exposed to the violence in the first place. I still have lots of liberal friends, family and collegues and I occasionally do nochalant surveys of what they know about the riots, BLM, etc and you'd be shocked how uninformed they are. On the other hand even the slightest right wing agression is public nose. All my liberal friends konw about the 'bogaloo boys' which is a intelligence communisty psyop. All my liberal friends know about that evil James field that came to Charlottesville to run over as many peaceful protesters as possible. (Which we know is a lie). All my liberal friends know that militant white national groups are forming all over the country and Trump is secretly in communication with all of them ready to start the concentration camps. Do you see the problem here? We are living in a post truth society thanks to the enemy of the people press and their allies in academia, medicine, politics, business, etc.

We can't keep just saying its the jews anytime something negative happens with our movement.

Listen Salos I've been keeping an eye on your posts on reddit and here and I notice that you're constantly trying to soften the movement and send it down other directions. This is not the alt light. This is not civic nationalism. We have looked into the Jews and have overwhelming evidence they are coordinating our ethnic and genetic genocide. If you don't believe that you can make a post and have a discussion but stop trying to sneak around asking us to be nice to people that atavistically hate.

"When we win do not forget these people want you broke, dead, your children raped and brainwashed and they find it funny".-Sam Hyde.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

I'm not trying to accuse him of being a malicious troll or anything, and I think he should be allowed to be active poster here, but did anyone else a lot of Salos' posts were basically on the old sub just troll bait half the time?

[–]antireddit 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Something off about him. Maybe hes Israeli, possibly an ethiopion Jew, or maybe some East African immigrant living in the US(he's posted about ethiopian shit a few times) that doesnt really like the left, but is also freaked out by the alt right and takes it upon himself to 'monitor' them, or 'guide' them to be more Jew or minority friendly? Something weird like that.

He gets triggered by shit no white alt right leaning person would get triggered over, even one legitimately concerned about optics. He takes a lot of sarcasm or shit posting literally, which is why I suspect he's probably not originally from the west, or at least the anglosphere. I'm also still not completely convinced he isnt bork3d. I think it was established previously he at least is acquainted with blork outside of DAB.

He even listed blork3d as someone he invited to this sub, despite being aware that blork3d was a well known troll who obsessed with getting Reddits debatealtright banned.

Whatever the case is, he's an odd one.

[–]Salos10000[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

No to all of that shit. I listed Blork to stop users from contacting him since I knew of his behaviour. I have a problem with slurs and violent,hate filled rhetoric for optics and moral reasons, I want this movement to succeed I see it in collectivist terms and ask what i can do for it rather than what it can do for me. I want it to succeed and I want my people to thrive, immaturity and vileness on their level or what you call wignats have no place in this movement, in a conflict they would/should be cannon fodder. We have to be conscious of how we appear and form a healthy and proactive nationalism rather than the current cancerous strain.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

in a conflict they would/should be cannon fodder

I don't think you understand how honor culture works.

[–]Salos10000[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

What do you mean?

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Honor cultures are tribes that believe dying on the battlefield in defense of your people is a high honor. People in honor cultures don't think about ducking military service. Nobody thinks about using tricks to get other people to die as cannon fodder. Your comment exposed you as not being a person pre-disposed to honor culture. Which makes you either genetically or spiritually Jewish (or maybe just young and you didn't have a strong father). Remember that the alt right isn't just about survival of white genetics. We are also about traditionalism, european culture, honor, etc. It this topic interests you you can read up on fascism which is an extension of honor cultures. Whites also aren't the only ones that have honor culture. Bushido/samurai culture in Japan is an example. Christianity use to also be an honor culture religion in most of it's variants but that's been subverted.

[–]Salos10000[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

No my comment was in reference to the fact that wignats are completely worthless dead weight that do more harm to our movement that anything else, thus them dying in Battle really will not be that much of a loss. If they want to die in Battle rock on.

[–]antireddit 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

No to all of that shit. I listed Blork to stop users from contacting him since I knew of his behaviour.

You are a horrible liar. You said you messaged him and several other frequent posters about this sub like he was just another one of ourguys.

I wouldnt be surprised if some of the shitposting you just highlighted on voat was actually blork(you), since that was exactly what he was caught doing in reddit with some of his alts like soretitan.

[–]Salos10000[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I mentioned him because I didn't want users to message just like Voiceyourconviction,I know of their behaviour and I don't want them here.

[–]Salos10000[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

When did I post about Ethiopia?

[–]Salos10000[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

What makes you think that?What examples?

[–]DoubleReverse 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I doubt they really think you're Jewish. They disagree with you, but rather than have an honest discussion they're trying to derail the conversation by baiting you into spending your energy and attention on denying baseless accusations instead of making points that they obviously can't counter in good faith.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

No, Salos is just a notorious concern troll from r/DebateAltRight. The fact that he invited other infamous trolls/saboteurs like Blork3d is unsurprising.

[–]Salos10000[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I didn't invite them, I put them down to stop unaware users from inviting them because of knew of their behavior.

[–]DoubleReverse 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Obvious well poisoning is obvious

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Well the subs deleted so I can't post them, and I do think you do genuine posts but I remember a lot of your posts were basically trying to bait other users into downvoting you (I didn't downvote you btw, I don't even have reddit account for long time).

[–]Salos10000[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well I can assure you I wasn't trying to do that.

[–]Salos10000[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm telling us to be rational and think before writing or doing shit that harms us 100 times more. The average person does not want to associate with a swastika period. Calling yourself a fascist or nazi is the equivalent of calling yourself a heretic or satanist in medieval times you are giving them what they want. We can not afford this retardation considering the stakes and ticking time bomb for our people.

The JQ is one part of our movement that has to be suppressed in public but communicated in private. The average person believes the Jews are the greatest victims in history that did nothing wrong and that all attacks against them are anti semitism. I used to roll my eyes any time a Nationalist mentions Zionism or Jewish blame because none of them provided even a hint of evidence.For example saying Jews run the banks. What banks?What Jewish figures?How do they run the bank and how does it impact me? etc that kinda thing, most would just say read Culture of Critique which loses the argument because the majority of people will not spend their time and money on that stuff. Jewish subversion is real but the White traitor is a much much bigger problem aka the David Camerons,Tony Blairs,Angela Merkals etc of the world.

[–]sineavec 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Only two things can win at this point. Intolerance or a father figure/paternalism. If we want to win through intolerance, we have a long way to go. Our opposition is intolerant and controlling our institutions. Being a father figure is our best option. If these people are genuine, I'd tell them to shape up or not expect our support. But just being the most mature in the room will pay dividends in communicating with the person you are trying to win over, regardless of their ideology, sex, whatever. Negativity and immaturity is common in all political movements nowadays. We have to be above it and it is practical, as well.

[–]Salos10000[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The White race is on a ticking timebomb though we physically have to get our shit together fast.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Agreed. Sending blacks to Africa would be great for our nations, but also getting rid of the jewish rot first and foremost, starting with the banking system. These subhuman parasites really deserve getting segregated and put in a large, country-sized cage from which they could never escape.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The worse thing you can do to a parasite is separate him from his host.

[–]Salos10000[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No I disagree with that, most African American slaves arrived at the same time as us and have no connection to Africa whatsoever, you could even argue they are a separate people due to some having some Euro DNA. I propose just balkanising and giving them states in the South that they will be a plurality in by 2040. My ideal offer to them would be Mississippi,Louisiana,South Alabama,Georgia and Northern Florida aswell as city states in Baltimore,Chicago and Detroit. We have to compromise if we want to succeed. Aligning with Black Nationalists could actually be incredibly beneficial for us.