Debate a "leftist"

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[–]DoubleReverse[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (38 children)

If you want to seperate, that's your prerogative. You can't force somebody else into exile.

[–]antireddit 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

If the alternative is continuous dysfunction, racial violence, chaos, riots, mass incarceration, lowered economic and societal standards based on race, and a constant racial powder keg that threatens to blow up even worse, then one has to choose the least bad option.

You're living in some fantasy world apparently. One where the country doesnt see 20k plus murders a year and 90k black on white assaults, with the numbers likely to rise dramatically based on current events. Forcing whites to accept a situation that threatens to destroy them and ultimately the entire country out of some increasingly delusional utopian vision is sociopathic, and wouldnt be the first time the left committed mass murder in pursuit of a utopian vision. "Exile" might not be perfect, but it beats mass murder and a society in ruins.

[–]DoubleReverse[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I promise you trying to persecute black people does not result in reduced crime rates, and in fact quite the opposite.

[–]antireddit 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

We were talking about separating into different countries, which would END persecution. You cant persecute a people you have no control over or even contact with. That would be one of the points of separation. They claim were persecuting them. We claim they're persecuting us, so we separate and the problem is solved.

I have ancestors that were persecuted. They left the area where they suffered this persecution and ended their proximity to the people persecuting them, and that ended it. Thats what people do when they are actually persecuted, and that's what whites are going to eventually do when things get bad enough. We will create a separate nation. What would be the point of sticking around? That would be like a wife thats abused by her husband that refuses to leave even if she had the means to do so. Its not a healthy situation, and the situation in America is getting less and less healthy by the day. Access to white people is not a right, and we dont have some obligation to be somebody elses punching bag.

[–]DoubleReverse[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yes, please leave. Since it's clearly so easy for you, and you don't mind being seperated from your community, and you're happy to risk starting over somewhere else, that would really be the ideal solution. Of course, I have no more right to force you out than you have to force anybody else out, but from what you say it sounds like you're just raring to go. I really wish you would go make your own nation; the further away the better. And take the rest of the alt right with you.

[–]antireddit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I really wish you would go make your own nation; the further away the better. And take the rest of the alt right with you.

Dont worry, we dont plan on leaving behind a subversive diaspora. Trust me, we know just how annoying those can be. Lmao.

[–]DoubleReverse[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Not as if it's up to you

[–]Richard_Parker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (31 children)

It has happened all throughout history.

[–]DoubleReverse[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (30 children)

Lots of things have. You think that's a justification?

[–]Richard_Parker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (29 children)

Yes. When two separate peoples cannot get along or like each other, it is time to separate. Not only is this desirable, it is necessary and indeed inevitable. Balkanized socities do not last.

[–]DoubleReverse[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (28 children)

We get along better and better every decade.

[–]Richard_Parker 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

No we do not. And even if we did, it is not worth it.

[–]DoubleReverse[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

"No we do not."

We went from slavery to having a half-black president.

"And even if we did, it is not worth it."

Maybe not to a racist.

[–]Richard_Parker 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

You can only hold a ball underwater for so long.

Calling me a racist does not work on me, and is going to work on less and less white folks. Truth is racist.

[–]DoubleReverse[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

And changing the subject doesn't work on me. Hope you can learn to appreciate diversity.

[–]Richard_Parker 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Not changing the subject, puppy pup.

[–]sineavec 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (19 children)

This is the logic of an arranged marriage that was never going to work but the marriage exists because it was arranged. There is no "more perfect union" to be had with the Left. Videos are coming out everyday of mob attacks against Whites. And you, where are your words concerning this? "Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?" I have no desire to be unequally yoked with you and God gives us the right and ability to separate from those who offer darkness.

[–]DoubleReverse[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

You can leave this "marriage" whenever you want. The truth is it's working far better than hatred and division ever have.

[–]sineavec 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

It will be difficult to leave this marriage, but it must be done. I acknowledge that I am on the stage, as if it were a Passion Play within the World. I acknowledge that the elites understand they are actors on the stage, as well. You seem happy to be in the audience, harassing people like us. Why? Because we wish to act? If you are a person of good will, consider what prevents you to deal honestly with honest people. If you are not, then you are simply cheerleading for the elite. And the Passion Play will not spare you.

[–]DoubleReverse[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

Lol, what? Does this have anything to do with either of our arguments?

[–]sineavec 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

Learn; in this one-on-one, you can only be willing to learn and I can only be your teacher. There is no other correspondence. Our arguments are not equal, it is apparent. I told you debate is question and answers. If both parties are respectful, our questions can become perfect questions and our answers can become perfect answers. From that, we develop a better understanding of ourselves and the world around us. We come away from it with a greater consciousness and self-awareness.

Our world is made up of elites and everyone else. Our elites act, so as to maintain and increase their power. Non-elites are split. They are either sufficiently self-directed and self-aware, in which case they will righteously act against the elites. The other non-elites, they need knowledge of the darkness that blinds them. When they act, they are acting for the elite, whether they know it or not. When they argue, they are making arguments for the elite. Whether they know it or not.

We are not sharing a debate. I am the teacher, be willing to listen or learn from someone else.