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[–]HibikiBlackCaudillo 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (25 children)

And yet things were doing just fine in the protestant nations until the freemasonic loons came along to brainwash the masses into thinking all authorities are evil. Even as of today, what's one of the main ideologies responsible for the capitalist hell we are in? Libertarianism.

Even when it comes to the search for the truth, all the more philosophical truth, open debate is hardly the way to find it. Repression isn't neccesarily an obstacle in the search for the truth, the confusion that comes with the open debate of ideas is... Which is why only the best qualified philosophers, authorities, should get to decide how society is run. With the Internet and the endless amount of available data people can't tell what's true or false or who is being honest and who isn't.

[–]Drewski 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

Who decides which qualified philosophers and authorities get to run society? The corrupt globalists and other cabal types obviously think that it is them. When open debate and free information is suppressed, who will be the arbiters of truth? I may not get everything right, but I sure don't want some "benevolent overlord" to tell me how to live and what to believe.

[–]HibikiBlackCaudillo 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Yeah, It's true people could abuse their power, but when it comes to society the idea that you can get away from the influence of the ruling class when they've already taken over everything, or that they can be defeated without an opposing authoritarian force are Nirvana fallacies. It's better to risk being betrayed than do nothing at all.

[–]Drewski 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I'm not suggesting doing nothing, but giving any person or group absolute power and authority is a recipe for disaster. The idea that there's nothing you can do to get away from the influence of the ruling class is defeatist and incorrect. There's plenty you can do; getting involved in local politics, building local communities, sharing ideas and concepts with other people, withdrawing from public institutions (agorism, growing your own food, starting your own business, using gold/silver/crypto/barter etc instead of fiat currency), not paying taxes, ignoring immoral laws and mandates, protesting against govt overreach, living your best life regardless of the evil that will always be there.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Saved!

[–]HibikiBlackCaudillo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You may save a few people that way, but I'm talking about the nationalist view of trying to save everyone. You can't do this and save people from the technocratic influence of society without embracing the rebellion aspect.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 3 insightful - 5 fun3 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 5 fun -  (18 children)

brainwash the masses into thinking all authorities are evil.

They are.

Which is why only the best qualified philosophers, authorities, should get to decide how society is run.

Fuck your experts. That's how we got in this fucking mess.

[–]HibikiBlackCaudillo 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

Wrong. The thing that was keeping the freemasonic lunatics, the evil authorities from taking over was the good authorities. Once the freemasons took over, Libertarianism was one of the main ideologies used to destroy the ethical foundations of the US.

Why aren't powerful people doing something to save their own nations from collapsing? Well because It's a free country and they can do whatever they want. How many people have you met that are promoting the rebellion aspect to save everyone, which is objectively the right thing to do from an ethical point of view? Isn't the lack of this, the fault of Libertarianism?

[–]FlippyKing 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (16 children)

freemasons developed in protestant countries, protestantism is a perfect breeding ground for it. They start with the idea that you believe in God. All freemasons, except the "odd fellows" believe in God, and their "wisdom" teaching leads eventually to satan it seems.

And, I agree with Jason above, fuck your best qualified philosophers, authorities, and the big coronavirus dick they rode in on. that is exactly how we got in this mess. If you believed that, you'd be jabbed up and bowing down.

Where are your best most qualified philosophers now? Can you name them? Till then I'll continue to consider what Aquinas has to say, till someone better comes along.

[–]HibikiBlackCaudillo 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

You are missing the point. The good authorities historically fought back. Libertarianism is what got us into the capitalist hell.

[–]FlippyKing 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

The last good authorities I can think of are Leo XIII or Pius X.

I don't think I'm missing the point at all. Good authorities are nothing without trust, otherwise they are just writers. There is not trust, and no reason to extend it outside your neighborhood and certainly no reason to extend it beyond your own ability to reason.

I'm still asking, who are these philosophers you want us to listen to? Aquinas? He's good.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

The good authorities historically fought back.

The "good" authorities were still scum and exploited the people. They only quibble about how much corruption and how badly they treat the masses. Whether it was Jefferson with his slaves or Musk with his tech, none of them lead bottom-up fair organizations.

[–]HibikiBlackCaudillo 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Ay please. People in the protestant nations were happy as fuck before the masonic revolutions.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (8 children)

Riiiiiiight. So all the wars in Europe's history were just grand ol' times.

[–]HibikiBlackCaudillo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

You don't like the protestants? Despite our violent history, we've had our fair share of good and bad Caudillos in our history in Venezuela.

But either way, I think centralized and decentralized systems can work, but I think a lot of the ideals that Libertarians tend to follow are rather utopian. I don't trust people to resist the technocratic influence of society like to think a descentralized system can even work under the conditions we are in without getting rid of the government.

And yeah, historically, Libertarianism was the ideology that created the capitalist mess we are in.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

You are arguing in BAD FAITH with bullshit strawmen and moving the goalposts.

It's NOT about protestants, or Venezuela, or any other bullshit. The OP is about Trudeau, and I shit on your love of authority. Go fuck yourself and your timesuck word salads.

Return to authenticity and develop solutions or get the fuck out of our way with your nay-saying and negativity.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

[–]mrsuicide 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

you were not protesting.. you were blocking an international port of entry, which borderlines on a terrorist act.

Bullshit.

You weren't there you don't know what the fuck you are talking about. I was protesting in the road as is my human right. The cops shut down all the traffic, COMPLETELY. That was NOT us.

could you imagine if anytime someone gets upset about something, they go downtown and clog up the streets with trucks and cars?

Bullshit.

Your strawman ignores the last 2 years of lockdown bullshit for fake $cience.

our communities would always be in chaos.

I'd take chaotic freedom over tyrannical order any day.

you created chaos.

Ordo ab chao.

ZZZTheyZZZ manufactured the chaos so they can bring in their Great Reset.

i am not in favor of mandates, but the truckers were commiting that which borderlines on an act of war.

You're ignoring the perpetual class war that has been dialed up for a couple years.

fEd, next time bring your brain to a fight of wits.